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Speedometer Problem

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by Renegade ll, Jan 26, 2021.

  1. maurywhurt

    maurywhurt Member 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    Tim, You might try contacting Deluxe Speedometer and Cable Service in Denver, CO. They can be reached at 303-629-6958 or at deluxespeedometer@hotmail.com.

    They made a new speedometer cable for me recently with an exposed metal sheath like the originals had. I don't know whether or not the internal cable is the reverse rotation type (I hadn't heard about that until reading this thread), but so far it is not transporting oil from the transfer case up into my speedometer.

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    Last edited: Jan 28, 2021
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  2. Renegade ll

    Renegade ll Member

    All fixed I'm good. Thanks guy's.
     
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  3. PeteL

    PeteL If it wasn't for physics, and law enforcement... 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    So, what was the fix?
     
  4. SFaulken

    SFaulken Active Member


    Am I just thinking about this wrong, or couldn't you basically just pull the core out of the cable, and re-insert it the other direction (i.e. "Backwards) and make the twist run the other direction? Far as I know, the ends are the same on the core.
     
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  5. Renegade ll

    Renegade ll Member

    Well I took everything out including the speedometer (what a pain). Took the speedo apart and used brake clean to clean it very good, used compressed air and blew it out so it was dry and re-lubed with 3-1 oil including the tiny shaft to the needle. Put it all back together. Took the speedometer cable and housing out and cleaned it real good. Lubed the cable with a spray lithium grease. Put everything back together and it works perfect. So far so good. Will see if it lasts.
     
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  6. 45es

    45es Active Member 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    Yes, you are looking at it wrong. The twist will remain the same no matter which way you insert the cable.
     
  7. PeteL

    PeteL If it wasn't for physics, and law enforcement... 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    As I recall, one end has a fitting.
     
  8. maurywhurt

    maurywhurt Member 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    That's correct - at least on the ones I've had, there's a fitting on the speedometer end of the cable that keeps it from sliding down toward the transfer case.
     
  9. kenb

    kenb Cleverly disguised as a responsible adult

    Resurrecting an old thread here. I called Deluxe Speedometer and they said their inner cables all have a "left hand lay". Does anyone know if this is the correct direction to keep gear oil from climbing up to the gauge?
     
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  10. 45es

    45es Active Member 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    A speedometer cable with lefthand lay should push fluid down the housing while driving the vehicle forward.
     
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  11. kenb

    kenb Cleverly disguised as a responsible adult

    Thanks. Does this mean when you look at the cable it looks like it has left hand threads?
     
  12. 45es

    45es Active Member 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    I guess you could say that.
     
  13. kenb

    kenb Cleverly disguised as a responsible adult

    This is all very confusing. The cable that was on my jeep that I broke was right hand. The Crown replacement which had other fitment issues was also right hand. The generic replacement from my FLAPS was left hand. Odd that there's no standardization.
     
  14. 3b a runnin

    3b a runnin Active Member 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    Yes it is odd.
    The longer I run the 3B at road speed, the more oil I have in the floor from the speedometer.
     
  15. PeteL

    PeteL If it wasn't for physics, and law enforcement... 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    lay-examples.jpg
     
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  16. 45es

    45es Active Member 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    To help understand how the lay of a speedometer cable can affect whether the lubricant is pulled up or pushed down the housing, a simple test can be conducted. Lay the speedometer cable out in front of you so that the driven end (speedometer end) is up and the drive end (transfer end) is down. The left hand lay will look similar to Pete's pictures above. We know the cable turns in a clockwise manner as viewed by looking at the end of the cable at the drive end (transfer case end). Pick up the cable so that it is laying across your left hand and lightly held between your thumb and forefinger. Now rotate the cable with your right hand as if being driven by the transfer case drive or an electric drill as noted above. You will sense your thumb/forefinger being pulled down the cable or it may feel as though the cable wants to move upward through your thumb and forefinger. Hope this makes it easier to understand.
     
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  17. kenb

    kenb Cleverly disguised as a responsible adult

    I see it now, that was a good explanation, thanks. I worked with my spare speedometer and I see how I want the left hand lay to keep the gear oil from climbing the cable. The right hand lay would act as an Archimedes' screw
     
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  18. amboynut

    amboynut Member

    Zackly.
     
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  19. kenb

    kenb Cleverly disguised as a responsible adult

    Am additional follow up. I got my cable from Deluxe Speedometer. Very high quality item. It's much more expensive than a Crown unit but you can sure see the difference. I also got my speedometer back from a local rebuilder. So far everything works well. The needle runs very smooth with none of the "bounce" I was seeing before.
     
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