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'59 Mystery Exhaust Leak

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by DEL59, May 26, 2017.

  1. DEL59

    DEL59 New Member

    I'm hoping you guys can help me find an exhaust leak on my 59 f134. It shows up under load and it leaks so much that I can't drive without having the doors off and the rear window rolled up. It makes a strong popping noise and is only present when accelerating. So far I've replaced the exhaust manifold and all of the gaskets. The oil is clean, not milky. It sounds like it is right in front of the dash. The only thing I can think is a blown head gasket. Any other ideas?
    Thanks for the help!
     
  2. PeteL

    PeteL If it wasn't for physics, and law enforcement... 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    So then do a compression test. Or try pulling plug wire off #4, see if the sound abates.
    But that would be an unusual place for an F-head head gasket leak, usually they blow between cylinders.
    Sure it's not the manifold gasket at the rear of the block?

    A piece of flexible tubing to your ear can be used to locate the source of an exhaust leak sound.



    Welcome to the Forums.
     
  3. DEL59

    DEL59 New Member

    Thanks PeteL. I'll try pulling the plug wire tomorrow. I replaced the manifold gasket last week but I'll double check the rear gasket to make sure it's not leaking. Thanks again for the help!
     
  4. Glenn

    Glenn Kinda grumpy old man Staff Member

    Any exhaust leak should be noticeable even at idle. How about where the exhaust pipe bolts to the exhaust manifold? It can be fairly easy to not get it evenly tightened.

    Are you saying you take the doors off because it is so noisy? Is the muffler plugged up and creates too much back pressure?
     
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  5. 1960willyscj5

    1960willyscj5 Well-Known Member

    That connector between the exhaust pipe and the bottom of the manifold. That would place the sound right at the firewall. Or any of the connectors between there and the muffler.
     
  6. DEL59

    DEL59 New Member

    Thanks for the feedback guys. I replaced the gasket between the manifold and the exhaust pipe when I did the manifold gaskets, but I will double check and make sure it is tightened evenly. I have to drive with the doors off because of the exhaust that is coming into the cab, otherwise I would pass out. I'll post what I find after I've dug into it some more today. Thanks again.
     
  7. Glenn

    Glenn Kinda grumpy old man Staff Member

    Keep in mind that if you drive with the back flap open the exhaust fumes will get sucked into the Jeep. Having the doors off can fool you because that air flow pushes or keeps the exhaust out. I'd bet that is what you are experiencing. Does the tailpipe end at the back corner like original?
     
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  8. DEL59

    DEL59 New Member

    Thanks Glenn. Yes, it does do a stationwagon effect with everything open, but if the doors are on it is unbearable. I only drove it once since the leak developed and that was to get it to the shop where I work. The tailpipe ends at the back right corner like original.
     
  9. Glenn

    Glenn Kinda grumpy old man Staff Member

    Hmmmm. Is it running rich by chance? That would make it more unbearable. Around town in mine with the flap up it was aggravating to me but not unbearable. If you do have a leak hopefully you can find it easily enough. Is the exhaust system new?
     
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  10. Keys5a

    Keys5a Sponsor

    Your popping noise you describe usually indicates an individual gasket leaking. I would be looking again at the 3 individual manifold-to-head gaskets. Yes, if one of these is leaking, it will be much more noticable under accelleration. If your engine is clean, you can usually see soot or burning of the paint where the leaking gasket is.
    -Donny
     
  11. 1960willyscj5

    1960willyscj5 Well-Known Member

    Mmm... That would be Block to Manifold, would it not?
     
  12. Keys5a

    Keys5a Sponsor

    Oops! Yes
    -Donny
     
  13. 1960willyscj5

    1960willyscj5 Well-Known Member

    I think you have something else besides an exhaust leak going on.
    but, then I have nothing to go on. I run a Bikini top all year.
    You might consider a complete replacement from the joint between the exhaust manifold to the left rear corner.
     
  14. DEL59

    DEL59 New Member

    Thanks for your help guys. Did a compression test and the last cylinder is low (90 vs 120). There is also black soot on the firewall right behind that cylinder. At this point I am taking it to the local shop for repair so I can hopefully drive it a little before the snow flies! I will let u know what they find... One more question; I have the original steel top with doors. Glass and gaskets are in perfect shape. I am going to sell it but I have no idea of value or where to post it. Any ideas?
     
  15. Focker

    Focker That's a terrible idea...What time? Staff Member

    Ask value help questions with pics in the Off Topic section to gain feedback...Then post in the Classified section.
     
  16. DEL59

    DEL59 New Member

    Thanks Focker. Dumb question but where is the off topic section?
     
  17. Focker

    Focker That's a terrible idea...What time? Staff Member

    I was going to post a link, but I see that you found it. (y)
     
  18. DEL59

    DEL59 New Member

    Well it turned out to be a blown head gasket at the rear center head bolt. It was blowing exhaust out against the firewall. We replaced the head gasket, rocker cover gasket, carb base gasket, thermostat, and all head bolts. Glad the head wasn't cracked!
     
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  19. 47v6

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    I like when they get fixed.
     
  20. PeteL

    PeteL If it wasn't for physics, and law enforcement... 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    Score one for the Good Guys. (y)