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Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by mayday, Jul 23, 2017.

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  1. tarry99

    tarry99 Member

    Ok , so now you think it's not loosing oil and it's just slow to get back to the pan and dipstick???...........Check it every other day after it's been driven daily.................If it is not knocking and still maintaining oil pressure......what's the problem?
     
    tarry99, Jul 27, 2017
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  2. mayday

    mayday Sponsor

    Thanks that makes me feel better I was really thinking I was going crazy.
     
    mayday, Jul 27, 2017
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  3. mayday

    mayday Sponsor

    I'm thinking the same, I still have the low cylinder but I'm waiting on my cylinder leak tester to get in tommorow.
     
    mayday, Jul 27, 2017
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  4. Glenn

    Glenn Kinda grumpy old man Staff Member

    Well, to me using oil pressure as a way to know you have enough oil would only be done out of desperation. Maybe it's just me, but I like to be reasonably certain that when I look at the dipstick the oil level indication is correct.
     
    Glenn, Jul 27, 2017
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  5. tarry99

    tarry99 Member

    Humm..........if it's not leaking and not burning it and it's just slow to return to the pan ..........and you can confidently measure it on the dipstick over a given period of time when cold..........and it's not knocking and still maintaining oil pressure.

    Drive it
     
    tarry99, Jul 27, 2017
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  6. Glenn

    Glenn Kinda grumpy old man Staff Member

    Changing the oil and filter, and starting with a known quantity of 5 quarts, would temporarily be feasible if he can't easily find the cause of slow return. He could then monitor it and determine how long it has to sit until the dipstick shows full. At least when it sits for that period of time he could probably and reasonably determine oil usage.
     
    Glenn, Jul 27, 2017
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  7. tarry99

    tarry99 Member

    I agree...................start from a known and monitor it.....
     
    tarry99, Jul 27, 2017
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  8. mayday

    mayday Sponsor

    Ha, great minds think alike. So checked drains from top and side valve covers. Did not find any problems, motor has some sludge in the side cover cleaned it out. Pored ATF in with oil and Sea foam. Turned motor over a lot. Drained oil mixture refilling and draining again.
     
    mayday, Jul 27, 2017
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  9. Glenn

    Glenn Kinda grumpy old man Staff Member

    How much have you actually had, run, or driven the Jeep?
     
    Glenn, Jul 27, 2017
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  10. mayday

    mayday Sponsor

    I drive it most of the time local, unless I'm fixing or rebuilding something.
     
    mayday, Jul 27, 2017
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  11. mayday

    mayday Sponsor

    IMG_0426.JPG Here's a pic of a board I put up by the exhaust. This came out the pipe ran for a while, different engine speeds.
     
    mayday, Jul 27, 2017
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  12. Glenn

    Glenn Kinda grumpy old man Staff Member

    Does it get fully up to operating temperature? I'm just wondering if it will over time get better, maybe some sludge will get dissolved by clean, hot oil?
     
    Glenn, Jul 27, 2017
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  13. Glenn

    Glenn Kinda grumpy old man Staff Member

    Doesn't really look too bad considering the compression issues.
     
    Glenn, Jul 27, 2017
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  14. mayday

    mayday Sponsor

    It does. I drive it as much as I can all over the island.
     
    mayday, Jul 27, 2017
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  15. mayday

    mayday Sponsor

    Thanks hope hope it works out going to check compression on 4 again now that it's warm.
     
    mayday, Jul 27, 2017
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  16. mayday

    mayday Sponsor

    Still low changing oil one last time then wrapping up tell tommorow. thanks for the help.
     
    mayday, Jul 27, 2017
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  17. tarry99

    tarry99 Member

    Nothing that would concern me...........
     
    tarry99, Jul 27, 2017
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  18. mayday

    mayday Sponsor

    Got leak down tester today. Ran a quick test. Sounds like 1 rings, 2,3,4 exhaust. I'm going to recheck tommorow, take top and side covers off to make sure I'm at top dead center for each cylinder. But I'm thinking I'll be doing a exhaust valve job. Made a tool to pull valve guides from block, new exhaust valves and springs will be in next week. Any advice for replacing valve guides and exhaust valves? I'm planning on just lapping valves, replacing valve guides. What thoughts do the experts have?
     
    mayday, Jul 28, 2017
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  19. PeteL

    PeteL If it wasn't for physics, and law enforcement... 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    "Don't fix it if it ain't broke." But I'm not an expert.
     
    PeteL, Jul 28, 2017
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  20. Glenn

    Glenn Kinda grumpy old man Staff Member

    So the one with the best compression is rings? If so, 100 isn't too bad a number and if the exhaust valves bring the other numbers up then it should obviously run a bit better. Since the head will be off it certainly wouldn't hurt to take a good look at the cylinder walls and piston fit. Personally I would be bound and determined to figure out the slow oil draining issue. You know you could try pouring oil in the head drain holes and the same on the side of the block....that should give a pretty quick answer.
     
    Glenn, Jul 28, 2017
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