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Tapered Intermediate Bearing Numbers?

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by Jw60, Jun 12, 2019.

  1. Jw60

    Jw60 That guy 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    Does anyone know the timken or equivalent part number to replace advance adapters PN: 716304 and 716305 I want to use the same bearings on another project if they will work.
    Thank you!
     
  2. johneyboy03

    johneyboy03 The green beast

    Same thing here....

    for the tapered bearing kit use on dana 18 and 20 ?

    when i got the kit two years ago form advance they supply timken bearing....i feel so stupid now that i put the boxe in the garbage.

    But i did tear down my t-case two months ago and the timken number were on the bearing.
     
  3. oldtime

    oldtime oldtime

    L 44643 bearing
    L 44610 cup
     
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  4. duffer

    duffer Rodent Power

    Also both of those compose Timken's Set 14. I bought my last ones from Summit for a very reasonable price and they are USA made components.
     
  5. sterlclan

    sterlclan Member 2024 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    Now all I need is the drawing for the shaft.
     
  6. Keys5a

    Keys5a Sponsor

    There is a shaft, and a "bushing" for the nut end.
    -Donny
     
  7. oldtime

    oldtime oldtime

    Thanks John... I did not realize those are available as a set.
     
  8. Mcruff

    Mcruff Earlycj5 Machinist


    You plan on making one? Not just a matter of making a shaft, will still need to be made from 4140 or 8620 and induction heat treated and drawn, plus ground to finished size for bearing surfaces.
     
    Last edited: Jun 13, 2019
  9. Jw60

    Jw60 That guy 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    The shaft kit is a good deal for most when you look at the material, tooling and time it would take to reproduce.
    To do it myself I would have to make 4, run the best of the lot, then wish I bought the kit.
     
  10. sterlclan

    sterlclan Member 2024 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    I have a buddy that makes crazy shafts for paper mills and the like he owes me a huge favor or two ....
     
  11. Oldriginal86

    Oldriginal86 Member

    Would the shaft need to be hardened to that degree if it no longer has bushing riding against it?
     
  12. Mcruff

    Mcruff Earlycj5 Machinist

    As a general rule, yes. It helps to protect the shaft from nicks and dings, keeps the bearings from gauling the shaft when put on, and also protects the thread from stretching so easily when preloading the bearings. Also makes it easier to grind the shaft to a precision finish and size.
     
  13. Keys5a

    Keys5a Sponsor

    Just out of curiosity, when heat treating a shaft like this, is the ground finish to size done before or after the heat treating?
    -Donny
     
  14. Mcruff

    Mcruff Earlycj5 Machinist

    Generally done afterwords. Most steels will warp or grow slightly during heat treat.
     
  15. duffer

    duffer Rodent Power

    I don't think the AA shafts are ground or hardened and don't even know if they are alloy. I had one that was soft enough that one of the bearings actually left an indention. Thought about welding it up and regrinding but just bought another.
     
  16. Jw60

    Jw60 That guy 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    This is disappointing I might have to make a drawing or two.