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Wiring Loom Connector

Discussion in 'Intermediate CJ-5/6/7/8' started by mrtii, Mar 10, 2018.

  1. Mar 10, 2018
    mrtii

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    In restoring my jeep I am looking for someone who knows where to get connector ends for our older jeep, any help would be appreciated
     
  2. Mar 10, 2018
    timgr

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    It would help to be more specific. Specify the year, equipment, which connector.

    You can buy the Packard crimp terminals for the existing plastic connector shells several places, including Del-City. Unlikely you will find replacement plastic shells.

    Scroll down here for how to rebuild the plastic shells. ECJ5

    Del City has a limited number of shells along with the terminals Del City - Search Results: packard
     
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  3. Mar 16, 2018
    mrtii

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    Sept 1971 jeep cj5 specifically. I am looking for any of the specific ends thru out the loops. Thank you for the lead
     
  4. Mar 17, 2018
    Oldriginal86

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    I would think if replacement harnesses are available the connectors and terminals could be purchased on the net.
     
  5. Mar 17, 2018
    timgr

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    Maybe. Application-specific connectors may only be available with special order in bulk. The thread I linked to above lists several replacements for standard connector types at this site Automotive Electrical Connector Pigtails, Terminals, Tools and More

    The '71 does not have a fuse panel, and no firewall bulkhead connector. Thus the connectors are all at the various terminations, and those connectors are typically 1, 2, 3, or 4 conductors. All those sizes are available at Del-City and likely at the link above. I recall that Standard Ignition used to sell headlight switch connectors, and those still may be available.

    Really, if you have the original wiring, I'd suggest you just buy new wire and the Packard terminals, and use the original plastic shells to repair the existing harness. Not difficult. If you have no wiring, It's very unlikely that you can buy the materials for a new OEM-style harness cheaper than you can buy a reproduction harness from Walck's. Certainly you will be way ahead in time spent.
     
  6. Mar 21, 2018
    johnD

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    I do not have the wiring harness for the 75cj. I purchased ez-wiring harness. Should I start to look for connectors that are from the 75cj era so that the electrical parts fit or change them out to the new connectors I'm going to buy? I a building the jeep from the frame up! :blah:
     
  7. Mar 21, 2018
    timgr

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    A '75 harness is a one-year part. It's probably closest to a '76 and the next few years, and completely different from a '74. A '74 uses the harness from earlier years with no fuse panel and inline fuses, with no dash bulkhead plug. The steering column and dash change in 1976, so it has some major changes from '75. Do you have the '75 TSM?

    If you want a really strict restoration, the Painless harness will never be like the original harness. Making this harness exactly like the original will be very difficult if you don't already have a '75 harness to work with.

    If it were mine, I would simply wire it up using the Painless diagram. You can buy weatherpack connectors with as many conductors as needed. Most of the connectors in cars are put there for the assembly line, not for some later function. You don't need a lot of connectors - lights and such can be wired in directly as long as that does not offend some aesthetic issue. Connectors for the headlight switch and high beams may already be part of the Painless harness.

    Sorry if I'm lecturing :schooled: but with a hot rod harness (like Painless) you have to figure it out. They give you the wire and connectors and it's up to you to figure out how the devices connect.
     
  8. Mar 21, 2018
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    I am not restoring it to the way it rolled off the line. I do not feel like you are lecturing, I feel you have a lot of knowledge that I would like to have! :bow: I am adding modern stuff to it. I did get my hands on a 75 TSM. I am not using the Painless I went with Ez-wiring 12 standard. If I did my research right I believe the wiring are GM in the jeep. It does come with a manual and tech support! I read the different harness in the threads and went with Ez-wiring. I will be buying weatherpack connectors Del city or Automotive connecters. I was also looking at buying the tool that you can take the wires out not sure.
     
  9. Mar 21, 2018
    timgr

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    Glad to be of help.

    Mmm. GM? Not sure what you mean. Jeep has its own wiring scheme. 1975 was the last year for the big black Jeep steering wheel (often called the "bus wheel"). In 1976, Jeep went to a GM column. You can swap in a GM column, but it will be a bit of work. If you want to use the original column, the only complicated bit might be connecting to the OEM Sparton turn signal switch.
     
  10. Mar 22, 2018
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    Tim thank you for your information! It has helped me a lot
     
  11. Mar 22, 2018
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    I would use a more modern connector as you are starting from scratch. The new plugs are more waterproof than the ones from the 70s.
     
  12. Mar 22, 2018
    timgr

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    This is an interior view of my '75, the day I got it. You can see the Jeep steering column and Sparton turn signal switch. You can also see how the wiring harness travels along the inside edge of the body, back to the rear corner. There is a grommet at the rear corner where the harness exits the interior and reaches the rear lights and fuel tank. In previous years, the harness travels from the engine compartment and along the frame to the rear. In '75, there is a fuse panel under the dash and the penetration of the firewall goes across the firewall to the engine and along the top of the inner fender to the alternator, ignition module and front lights.

    [​IMG]

    There are more pictures of my Jeep in this directory if you want to browse through them. Index of /~reese/ResizedJeepIPics
     
  13. Mar 22, 2018
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    Thank you gentlemen for you advice! I will do the new connections and will be looking at you pic. Tim question on the sparton turn signal does your light up when active? Looks like mine does have a bulb in it.
     
  14. Mar 22, 2018
    johnD

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    Tim nice Jeep!
     
  15. Mar 22, 2018
    timgr

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    Nope. May be a replacement? I've never seen an intermediate with a light. Search or ask specifically on the "Early" forum.
     
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