Stuck Clutch?

Hey everyone. I picked up a new toy/project a few weeks ago. 1961 CJ5, F-134 engine, T90 transmission, 4WD twin stick. I pulled it out of a barn in upstate NY after sitting for at least 10 years. I was able to get it running but it will not move under its own power. I wasn't sure what to expect so I opened up the tranny and the gears are all clean and move freely. Changed the gear oil with GL4 per manual. Also changed the oil in the transfer case and tightened the clutch linkage. Clutch pedal feels normal like it is doing something when I push the pedal. BUT...while its running I can switch it into gear without any grinding or noise, and when I let the clutch out, it doesn't engage or move. I am thinking the clutch may be stuck in the open/engaged position? I have never replaced or worked on a clutch, but it appears that I may have to learn. Any thoughts would be appreciated.

 

Did you make sure the transfer case is not in neutral?

 

is transfer shifter in 2 high

 

It doesn't matter what position the transfer case is in. I tried 2H, 4H, 4L. While running, I can put the transmission in all gears. Clutch does nothing. That's why I am assuming it is stuck in the engaged position. But again, I admittedly don't know a whole lot in this area.

Thanks!

 

For the clutch to get stuck in the open/ non engaged position whatever is "sticking it" would be overcoming the pressure plate springs pushing back. That doesn't happen often.

Have someone push he clutch in / out while you look underneath at the linkage and fork assembly for proper operation. Pull the rubber boot on the bell housing fork window to look in at the fork release bearing area.

As previously stated, be sure the transfer case is engaged. Inspect that linkage as well.
Look at the basic & simple stuff first.

 

I think id pull the pto cover on the t case and have a look if the trans output is turning. Just dont run yourself over

 

Thank you. I looked underneath while my son pushed the clutch pedal. The linkage works properly. However, call me crazy, but I don't seem to have a rubber boot and cannot see the fork or any part of it. The linkage is the cross shaft tube and lever type (not the control cable type - not sure it matters) and the control cable from the linkage goes directly into the bell housing and out of sight.

 

Nope, I made a point to make sure they were lined up properly. That was my first thought and what I thought the problem might be.

 

Makes sense. I will give it a try.

Thank you

 

Sorry for the delay in reply. Finally got a chance to work on the jeep the past few days. Its been a cold winter. I did manage to bend up new fuel lines and acid cleaned the tank, installed a new fuel pump and now it runs well.

So I'm back to the problem of no movement. I tried what Glenn suggested and removed the shift cover and forks, removed the wire from to coil and turned it over. Nothing moved in the gearbox. I took the vent cover off the bellhousing and it looked like the clutch was moving in and out when I applied the pedal.

Hub is broken? Thoughts?

Thanks

 

I've had very old original clutch plate linings just crumble to dust, leaving no action whatsoever.

Can you get a view at the bottom of the bell housing, inside the lower dust cover? Or at least stick a finger in the drain hole?

 

Clutches stick, locked in the engaged position. If you're not getting any gears, especially the main drive gear turning, your clutch is not engaging for some reason. If the Jeep starts, we can assume the flywheel is intact. That only leaves the clutch disc and the pressure plate.
As Glenn suggested, it could be the hub of the disc, or simply no lining left or attached to the disc.
As far as the pressure plate, I seen where a pressure plate bolt fell out, and got itself wedged under one finger of the three, locking it in the disengaged position. Long shot, but it could happen.
-Donny

 

where in NY was it? i got one from there, on the family farm.

 

that sounds like the same jeep as well, but this one wasn't it a barn