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Broken Spring Clamp.

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by scott milliner, Aug 14, 2021.

  1. Aug 14, 2021
    scott milliner

    scott milliner Master Fabricator

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    How do you fix this.

    Must be another Rubicon Trail Damage.

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    wheelie

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    :watch: I have the same problem. I think they are riveted but I don’t know how to fix it either.
     
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    PeteL

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    I've used a bungee strap....
    :shrug:
     
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    colojeepguy

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    Bob

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    If you have a spring shop around, they can put a new rivet in it or you could do it yourself too. To install a new rivet, you’ll have to disassemble the spring pack.
     
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    Keys5a

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    X2. Disassemble the spring pack and press the rivet back into the hole, then peen it with a punch.
    -Donny
     
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  7. Aug 16, 2021
    scott milliner

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    I have a press. I like this idea. Sounds plausible.
     
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    Lockman

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    Easiest , quickest way would be to let go the closest shackle , drive the clamp & leaf back till the rivet falls in the hole . Then weld the lower spring to the clamp at the end in your picture .
     
  9. Aug 17, 2021
    scott milliner

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    No. I think you have it wrong. Nothing is wrong with the spring, just the clamp came out of the rivet hole. If you look closely at the picture. The rivet on the clamp is about a 1/2" from the original hole.
     
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    wheelie

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    I am not schooled in metallurgy or welding so I have to ask: Is it okay to weld a leaf spring? My gut says no but I am a novice at best.
     
  11. Aug 18, 2021
    dozerjim

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    x2
     
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    Lockman

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    The second leaf from the top has shifted to Starboard, also. A Big Hammer should bring it back.
    Just Say'n......
    ....Richie
     
  13. Aug 19, 2021
    sterlclan

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    Welded springs eventually fail.
     
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    PeteL

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    I would say no.
     
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    ITLKSEZ

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    (Leaf)spring steel welds beautifully. It’s a high quality, high carbon steel. I used to weld them together to make skid plates out of them. The problem is, the heat from welding will anneal the area around the weld (reversing the temper) and it will no longer be a spring.

    If I understand what @Lockman is suggesting, you could drive out the rivet and run a bead across the end of the spring it is resting next to in the picture. Annealing the end of that single leaf wouldn’t harm anything.

    Warning though: Leaf spring steel contains chromium. Welding steel that contains chromium releases extremely harmful fumes. This is a fun, lighthearted read:

    Hexavalent Chromium - Health Effects | Occupational Safety and Health Administration
     
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    timgr

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    I recall a story from the distant past (Granville King?) about a couple who broke the main leaf on their Jeep (Wagoneer?) in the back country of Mexico. The remote village shop found a spring of the right length with the wrong center hole location. They popped a new hole in the leaf with the acetylene torch, put the spring pack together and sent them on their way. JMO - welding on the spring might be justified in some situations, but not here - too many more appealing alternatives.
     
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    iharding

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    I'm pretty sure all those things do is keep the leaves from splaying out laterally. It's doing that now. If you want it to look nice why not unbolt it, reposition it and bolt it back in? Mine don't have the locating pin yours does but I bet it just pops back into place.
     
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    PeteL

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    I think they also share the forces during rebound.
     
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    Glenn

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    Not saying that isn't true, but I've sure seen bunches of new leaf springs with banding material over rubber to clamp them together.
     
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    iharding

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    I had a leaf added to mine and that's what I got.
     
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