Steering Column Electrical Connector Id?

This came out of my 1968 CJ-5 that was converted to saginaw steering and what I am 99% sure was some kind of GM style steering column. The column was not a tilt column and was pretty shot. I replaced the column with an aftermarket GM style column.

I'm trying to identify the old electrical connector to hopefully get a wiring diagram so I can connect my new column. Any help identifying this connector would be greatly appreciated.

 

Lol i appreciate the link. I'm really just stumped on what this connector came from. It's obviously been cut off and spliced but what is it and where does it come from. The connector on the dash side is wrapped in tape and I haven't gone through that yet.

A few months ago I had this jeep up for sale and totally lost my motivation and interest in it. Now my 15 year old son is wanting to learn how to drive a manual transmission vehicle out of the blue. I have a full on generic wiring harness with a fuse block etc sitting in a box but I would rather troubleshoot this and make it go for now.

I just want to make this project safe and legal so the kid can go to the ohv park and learn a little bit about driving for now. If he takes a serious interest in this project I will tear it down with him and replace everything that is questionable. Weather is getting better and time is running out.

 

I don't know if this helps or not, but the discussion may at least identify which circuits the wires are connected to.

Steering Column Wiring diagram pre -'72 - Vintage Chevrolet Club - Discussion Forum (vccachat.org)

 

So I've been thinking about this in my head for a while now. I bought a complete wiring harness that should plug directly into the new column. Part of me wants to troubleshoot the existing wiring and connect the new column to the existing wiring. Good weather time is about to start and some current health issues are keeping me from being 100%. Once I have the down time and feeling up to the project I would like to install the new wiring harness. I'm really just wanting to get it road worthy and safe so my son can get some seat time in before the weather goes to 115*

Does anyone know of some kind of a write up on swapping in a gm style column and wiring it to the factory wiring harness?

 

Without identifying the column, we won't be any real help.
Pictures of what you have would be a good start.

That being said, an ohm meter will help you sort out the turn signals

 

I didn't realize trying to identify the old mystery column was going to be such a problem. I cut the connector off of it and tossed it in the trash months ago. The new column is an aftermarket gm style with the flat plug, no Ignition switch, no dimmer only turn signals and hazard switch. I did the install minus the wiring at this point. My 68 cj5 wiring is greatly unknown and other than the Ignition switch that is a CAT switch nothing works at this point.

I guess I will just have to map it all out wire by wire and get it done the old fashioned way. Either that and bite the bullet and just go 100% all in with the new harness.

 

Your Jeep wiring is simple.
Rear:
One wire runs both tail lights.
One wire runs the left turn/brake combo.
One wire runs the right turn/brake combo.

Front:
one wire runs both running lights.
One wire runs left turn.
One wire runs right turn.

Go to each light bucket and see what color wire runs each.
Match that up with the wiring under the dash.

The bigger issue is going to be finding out the wiring for the column.
If you don't have the aftermarket column instructions, you can do this with an ohm meter. If you need instructions on that, let us know.

 

I usually don't do other peoples research, but;
https://www.summitracing.com/search/part-type/steering-column-wiring-harnesses
One of these adapter harnesses may fit your new column.
The flaming river to Mopar adapter looks like your old one.

 

I'm not too worried about the new column wiring harness it's standard gm and came with a drawing showing the connector with wire colors and functions. What you said about going to each light and looking at the wire colors is something I actually never even thought about.

I guess I was hung up on the mystery wiring connectors and whatever unknown I can't see up under the dash. I've been planning on the roll cage out or at least moving it out of the way so I can pull the whole dash back enough to see everything.

 

I like the idea of the 6" bolts. Thanks for all the good info so far.

 

Get a Gmail style flat plug with the pigtail on it that plugs in to the one one column. And splice the existing wiring to it using the fsm schematic.

 

That's what I was planning to do. I would still like pull the dash back and see what has gone on back there in the past by previous owners. If its something that looks worse than just starting over I will do the whole harness that I have with the correct Gm column connector.

If it's possible and a safe condition I would rather do a clean up and save the complete harness for a next winter project. As well as a million other things. The day after I brought this project home I looked it over and ordered everything I thought I would need to get it safe and road worthy from new wheels and tires, column, wiring harness kit, and body and paint materials. Just need to get on it now.

 

I'm the least experienced guy on this forum, but my experience has shown me that if you pull the dash back, you will find something you want to fix!

 

Or 30 somethings.

 

I have wanted to pull the dash since the day I brought it home and realized nothing works. I have also been putting it off because like mentioned I'm sure it will be an experience that will make me wish I didn't do it even though it probably needs to be done.

I've really been over thinking this the last few days. I know it probably sounds stupid but the more I think about the wiring kit the more I don't want to do it. I am hoping some clean up and small stuff will be enough after really digging into it.

This brings me to another question. What are your thoughts or suggestions for a good shop manual?

 

factory service manual 1968 cj-5 factory service manual - Search (bing.com)
53-71JeepCjDjServiceManual.pdf (oljeep.com)

 

Any of the earlier Chilton manuals.
The two in my garage.

My manual is in tatters and needs to be replaced,

These can usually be found for pennies on the dollar at yard sales and junk shops.
I've picked up a number of the shop manuals covering both foreign and domestic cars and trucks over the years and find them very helpful.

 

No excuses, you have the harness and the jeep won't be right untill it's done.

Time to do it is now.