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Shifter boot troubles

Discussion in 'Early Jeep Restoration and Research' started by Grumpy58, Jun 14, 2006.

  1. Jun 14, 2006
    Grumpy58

    Grumpy58 New Member

    Galway, NY
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    How long do shifter boots last? I put in new boots around thanksgiving and just noticed the other day, they have split clean off from the mounting ring for the xfer case and the trans boot is cracking. I would expect this from boots that have been used for a few years with frequent shifting, but my plow jeep has been in 4 Lo since winter, and Ive only taken it out maybe twice since April. This jeep has not been on the road either, only plowed my driveway and the next door neighbor. I got 'em from Craig Motorsport. Anyone else have this problem? If not, where did you get your boots from?
     
  2. Jun 14, 2006
    Thunderpig

    Thunderpig Member

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    I have the same problem! I was disapointed in the life... one year:mad:

    Got mine from quadratec originally. Haven't re ordered cause I didn't want to waste the money!
     
  3. Jun 14, 2006
    Coho Willy

    Coho Willy New Member

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    You might try Herm the overdrive guy. I was at his shop (2 car garage) over the holidays discussing the rebuild of my transmission and transfer case and I remember him showing me a leather shift boot which I think he said he had made in Austrailia. You might give him a call or check his web site. Great guy who just lives an hour away. Good luck.
     
  4. Jun 14, 2006
    nwedgar

    nwedgar Now with TBI!

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    I know that you can get MB boots made of leather. I don't know if it will work for your application, but it's worth checking out.

    Kind of like this one at G503:
    http://www.g503.com/images/old-parts-page/leather-boots.jpg
     
  5. Jun 14, 2006
    jpflat2a

    jpflat2a what's that noise?

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    not original, but look for an accordian type boot at truck parts places
    IH especially
     
  6. Jun 15, 2006
    springerfever

    springerfever Member

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    Not sure if your boots are similar to mine on a 75 CJ5, but Gene at Turner's showed me the proper way to install. I had just put on a brand new one a couple of weeks before and it was already splitting at the top. He told me push down on the rubber all the way around the top; kinda' forming a dimple in the top. Relieves the stress and flex at the top of the rubber. Since then..no worries !!
     
  7. Jun 16, 2006
    Grumpy58

    Grumpy58 New Member

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    I did that when I installed them, but it's possible that i needed the get the xfer boot down over the spring clips. I know they were all the way down on on top of the clips. I think they're just poor quality rubber.
     
  8. Jun 16, 2006
    48cj2a

    48cj2a http://bantamt3c.com

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    If you look closely at the pictures of the boots you can see the molding mark on the cheap and stiff ones. The Originals are a very pliable rubber and a little thinner. I've snagged a couple on eBay that appear original and are definetley different than the cheap repros.

    Here is a perfect example of original boots for an M38A1: http://cgi.ebay.com/Willys-M38A1-sh...008QQihZ012QQcategoryZ585QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

    Here is cheapy: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Jeep...33703QQitemZ8076071123QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW
     
  9. Jun 16, 2006
    CJ

    CJ Member

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    Agree. I found my replacement in a junkyard. It was original, probably 50 years old, and was in near perfect condition. Good rubber back then. Check with DeBella or one of those guys for a NOS boot.
     
  10. Jun 16, 2006
    DanStew

    DanStew Preowned Merkin salesman Staff Member

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    Look for replacement boots for IH scout 80/800 withthe dana 18. I got one from my buddy who had a scout and it is real nice. And taller than the jeep versions. Looks really good :)
     
  11. Jun 16, 2006
    Grumpy58

    Grumpy58 New Member

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    That cheapy is the little pos I've got. Definitly going to look into a different varient to replace this before winter. Thanks for all the inputs folks.
     
  12. Jun 17, 2006
    Rondog

    Rondog just hangin' out

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    Let us know if you find a good source, willya? I wonder if Pete DeBella has any, he says he's got lots of NOS stuff...
     
  13. Jun 17, 2006
    SIDSCJ

    SIDSCJ Jeep addict

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    The cheapo ones suck. One year,under a hard top, never wet or in the sun, split,crapped out offshore trash!:mad:
     
  14. Jun 17, 2006
    James P. Enderwies

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    J.C. Whitney sells leather shift boots that work fine. One in mine.
     
  15. Jun 17, 2006
    scott milliner

    scott milliner Master Fabricator

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  16. Jun 23, 2006
    John O

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    I found that shifter boot listed as a D300 twin stick shift boot and will run you upwards to $30.
    I read, but haven't confirmed, that a boot from an 80's standard 4x4 ranger works also.
     
  17. Jul 12, 2006
    Canadian 62

    Canadian 62 Member

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    JC Whitney shifter boot 85YN0959N fits 1940 to 1974 Jeeps $3.99 each.
    I got one of these boots a year ago and it looks great.

    This is where I start to look if I need new parts for my old Jeep. JC carries lots of old parts...just got in my new left and right tie rods with ends (4) for under $60!!! and 2 new wiper motors for $30 each.
    Ed
     
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