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How wide is it????

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by ALP, Jun 23, 2006.

  1. ALP

    ALP New Member

    Hi. Can anyone tell me how wide the frame is on say a 67 cj5 at the front cross member?? I need to know if I can put in a 40 Ford cross member.. I know what the cross member measures.. Thanks.. ALP
     
    ALP, Jun 23, 2006
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  2. Mcruff

    Mcruff Earlycj5 Machinist

    It should be between 29-30" wide.
     
    Mcruff, Jun 23, 2006
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  3. ALP

    ALP New Member

    Darn.. I guess that won't work. The cross member is only 27 5/8" across..

    Another question then.. If I just hank the drive shaft off the front.. That should reduce the drag on the engine.. Shouldn't it?? I am going to pull out the high low in it..
     
    ALP, Jun 23, 2006
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  4. Boyink

    Boyink Super Moderator Staff Member

    Should be no drag when not engaged in 4wd. The biggest savings you'd have going to 2wd is the weight of the transfer case, and (if you replaced the front axle with a straight version) the pumpkin.
     
    Boyink, Jun 23, 2006
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  5. ALP

    ALP New Member

    Well I am going to pull the 3-speed, and the transfer case any how.. It does a number on the floor inside the cab. What holds the axle in now?? Is that a double leaf spring??
     
    ALP, Jun 23, 2006
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  6. Boyink

    Boyink Super Moderator Staff Member

    Yes, the front axle is placed by the leaf springs.

    What you gonna do for a transmission?
     
    Boyink, Jun 23, 2006
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  7. ALP

    ALP New Member

    Just talked with a guy on ebay. His cross member for a 39 Ford is 27 1/2" long. Now I would still need to know what the inside width of the frame is where I would be placing the crossmember. Anyone know where I could find the exact measurements to an early cj frame??
     
    ALP, Jun 23, 2006
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  8. Boyink

    Boyink Super Moderator Staff Member

    IMHO I wouldn't do much of anything until I was looking at the truck in person.
     
    Boyink, Jun 23, 2006
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  9. ALP

    ALP New Member

    True, but I want to run smoothies on the truck, and I can't with that big lockout on it..
     
    ALP, Jun 23, 2006
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  10. Boyink

    Boyink Super Moderator Staff Member

    I'm just saying - you're getting a vehicle that's been heavily modified. Trying to figure out measurements of stuff until you have it on hand seems premature - you just dont know exactly what's been done to it.
     
    Boyink, Jun 23, 2006
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  11. ALP

    ALP New Member

    I'll wait. I got the measurements on the truck today. The truck is: 165" long, 77" wide, and 72" High. How does that compare to the overall of a cj??
     
    ALP, Jun 23, 2006
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  12. ALP

    ALP New Member

    Oh, and the frame there hasn't been changed. In the pictures they are using the 225 on the original motor mounts, and the Jeep radiator. I was also told that the only thing that is different on the cj frame is that a pair of 4x4's ( that's wood) were used to hel hold the box on.
     
    ALP, Jun 23, 2006
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  13. Mcruff

    Mcruff Earlycj5 Machinist

    A cj5 is like 121" long total, and 59" wide. The truck almost has to be on a cj6 frame. The early cj5 only has an 81" wheelbase. The cj6 is 20" longer.
     
    Mcruff, Jun 23, 2006
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  14. Vhunter

    Vhunter Member

    I think all cj's frames from 1948 thru 1971 are 29 1/4 inches wide, outside to outside of the rails.
     
    Vhunter, Jun 23, 2006
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  15. ALP

    ALP New Member

    Thanks.. Do you know of anywhere where I can see the frame, and frame specs for a 60's cj??
     
    ALP, Jun 24, 2006
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  16. Mcruff

    Mcruff Earlycj5 Machinist

    Mcruff, Jun 24, 2006
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  17. ALP

    ALP New Member

    Thanks.. That helped. The frame is boxed I think, at least it looks that way. It is 29 1/4 front, rear. Is that from the outside of the frame to the outside of the frame. That would be great if that is how it measures.. ALP
     
    ALP, Jun 24, 2006
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