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Wilwood clutch slave

Discussion in 'Intermediate CJ-5/6/7/8' started by NorCoJeeper, May 19, 2008.

  1. May 19, 2008
    NorCoJeeper

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    For those who have a Wilwood pull-type clutch slave, where did you attach the stationary end? I built a bracket to bolt to the tranny, but the angle at the clutch fork was scary. I reattached it to the riser on the tranny crossmember which gives a good angle at the fork, but engine moves relative to the frame so I'm concerned whether or not it will give problems. What's your experience?
     
  2. May 19, 2008
    DanStew

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    I made a mount that bolted to the rear of the Tcase.

    It pretty much was a piece of 1x1 square tubing going the length of the tranny and Tcase. It bolted to the bellhousing botls in the front and bolted to Tranny/Tcase mounts in the rear. And from the 1x1 I welded a small piece of round tubing and i used a bolt to attach the slave cylinder to the 1x1 with a bolt that went throguh the round tube. If i can find a pic, i will post it. But it was pretty easy.
     
  3. May 19, 2008
    Posimoto

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  5. May 20, 2008
    NorCoJeeper

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    Jayhawk and Posimoto, are those clutch forks stock or have you modified them? They look short to me. Jayhawk, any problems pulling at that angle? That's about the angle I had on mine with the first bracket I built. The pivot ball would not sit into the pocket of my Ford clutch arm correctly.

    I"ll take a look at making brackets similar to what you guys have posted. Thanks for the ideas :beer:
     
  6. May 20, 2008
    Posimoto

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    I'm using the stock clutch fork. GM I believe.
     
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    Stock 225/T-14 clutch fork. I think I had to drill a slightly larger diameter hole for the slave, IIRC. Haven't had any problems with the angle of the slave. If you note the top pic, it actually pulls almost perfectly perpendicular to the clutch fork.
     
  8. May 20, 2008
    LostDawg

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    trickpatrick

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    I have been copying mine from that write up, good stuff
     
  10. May 20, 2008
    NorCoJeeper

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    Yeah, I've looked at that writeup a few times, too. Was looking for options :)

    Kinda what prompted the question is some guys on Pirate who posted that the rod was turning out of the cylinder housing, but there weren't many reasons posted.
     
  11. May 20, 2008
    jayhawkclint

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    That doesn't seem likely unless there was some type of installation error; the rod is threaded into the cylinder and then the threads have a nut tightened against the body of the cylinder.
     
  12. May 22, 2008
    Posimoto

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    I've had the rod that is screwed into the piston come un-screwed on two Wilwood slaves. I contacted them and they told me that they had never heard of the problem. The first time it happened I was on the Ducy trail. I thought I had broken the rod. I ordered a replacement slave from Summit when I got home. When I removed the old slave I realized it had just come un-screwed. I decided to clean it with lacquer thinner and put it back together with Locktite. When I got the new slave I checked the connection and was able to easily un-screw the rod from the piston. You could see that the assembler had used some type of thread locker, but it was all pushed to the outside of the connection. I cleaned it (the new one) and put it together with Locktite. It came apart again. I took them both apart and drilled and installed a roll pin in both. Now they can't come apart. The pull on my slave seems to be in line with the clutch fork, but some force is obviously in play that was causing it to come apart. Here's a pic of my repair.

    http://www.earlycj5.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=19021&d=1185594731
     
  13. May 22, 2008
    Posimoto

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    While that's true on the fixed end of the unit, the rod threaded into the piston has noting but thread lock holding it in. The first slave was in for over a year before it came apart. The first symptom is a little more free play in your pedal. In fact that's the only symptom until it comes apart. It's a good idea to carry a spare slave anyway. If you don't have one, I'd recommend buying one and doing the "fix". My guess is that the brake fluid is reacting with whatever the thread lock material is and is weakening it.
     
  14. May 22, 2008
    NorCoJeeper

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    That's exactly what I was hearing on Pirate (maybe even from you.) Thanks for posting the pic of the fix. I thought it was the fixed end that was coming apart, your picture makes it perfectly clear what's going on. Guess I'll tear mine apart and do the fix and hope I don't have any problems until I can cough up the money for a trail spare.
     
  15. May 22, 2008
    NorCoJeeper

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    One more question, the Wilwood slave requires a return spring on the fork, correct?

    EDIT: Nevermind, I went back and looked at the pics :oops:
     
  16. May 22, 2008
    Posimoto

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    I haven't had any other problems or complaints with the Wilwood slave other than the rod coming un-screwed. I posted this problem earlier on this forum, but not on Pirates, so apparently I'm not the only one with the problem.
     
  17. May 22, 2008
    Posimoto

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    I just went to the Pirates website and found the post you were reffering to. I added my .02 and posted the pic with the roll pin.
     
  18. Jun 10, 2008
    NorCoJeeper

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    I'm back, probably with another lame question I could answer with 30 seconds of searching. How do you get the piston out of the Wilwood slave? I took mine off yesterday and see that it is a closed housing for the piston. It looks like the end screws off, but I'd like to make sure before I screw something up or just make the housing look like crap. :)
     
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    Posimoto

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    Then ends are threaded on. I used a big pair of Channel locks and a vise and protected the tube with a couple of pieces of old inner-tube rubber.
     
  20. Jun 10, 2008
    NorCoJeeper

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    Figured that's what it would take. Thanks for the feedback! :beer:
     
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