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Welder Upgrade

Discussion in 'The Tool Shed' started by FinoCJ, Aug 29, 2020.

  1. Sep 7, 2020
    FinoCJ

    FinoCJ 1970 CJ5 Staff Member 2021 Sponsor 2020 Sponsor

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    I used it to weld 3/16 boxing for the frame and it definitely seems to be better than the small Lincoln - I think my Lincoln Handy Mig is about the same as the one in the weldpack 100 - check the amp ratings (I think the '100' in the name means 100 Amp welder). Mine was an 88 Amp welder - so stepping up to 140 is quite a bit more. I haven't tried much with 1/4", but from my work with the 3/16" - I don't think I would be able to weld 1/4" in one pass as I was just barely getting the 3/16 to work.... but that might be more of a reflection of me than the welder. I think I am learning that to weld the thicker stuff, I need to make a bigger gap - or maybe a bigger/wider bevel - to do it in one pass. Certainly, if you have access to both sides, welding front and back wouldn't be a problem (that is how I welded the 3/16 sliders with the little lincoln). In my case, I was also limited to one size flux core wire, and one size solid wire with the small lincoln - but with the Hobart there are more wire size options. Can't tell you how much better a 220V machine would be....I looked into it, but the cost of the machine itself and the necessary wiring and expanded circuit breaker for my house just put it out of my budget.
     
  2. Sep 7, 2020
    Warloch

    Warloch Did you say Flattie??? Staff Member

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    When you get to the point of putting the Saginaw box on, come down to the house. You use my welder, or I'll do it, or I'll teach you how. With the boxing done, your more than half way done with a Saginaw swap IMOP.
     
  3. Sep 8, 2020
    ITLKSEZ

    ITLKSEZ Hope for the best, prepare for the worst

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    Gaps aren’t good. A bevel between two tight-fitting pieces is best.

    For one, the back side of the gap is not being shielded with gas, so impurities can/will be introduced from the rear. And two, heat that could be used towards greater penetration is being spent on the puddle between the work pieces.

    There’s no shame in multiple passes if needed to fill a bevel. It’ll make a much stronger weld than a single pass in a square gap.
     
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  4. Sep 8, 2020
    FinoCJ

    FinoCJ 1970 CJ5 Staff Member 2021 Sponsor 2020 Sponsor

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    Thanks Chuck - we'll see how far I get. I am trying to button the cj back up for a bit and work on the wagon this fall.
     
  5. Sep 8, 2020
    FinoCJ

    FinoCJ 1970 CJ5 Staff Member 2021 Sponsor 2020 Sponsor

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    good to know....I struggle with 'over-filling' the weld (tall welds) and not getting enough penetration. Machine is set at highest setting. My instinct is to move slower so I can build up heat - but it seems I just build up weld material. Maybe I need to up the wire speed for more heat and move faster? I've tried slowing the wire speed down so I can move at the speed I am comfortable, but think you can eventually get it too slow that the wire burns away faster than its being fed and you get an inconsistent arc? Or am I completely off.
     
  6. Sep 8, 2020
    47v6

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    Any of you guys use this to shield the back of a weld? Product Information I have really needed this for some stainless to stop sugaring before I knew it existed.
     
  7. Oct 26, 2020
    Lockman

    Lockman My " Rosie" 2022 Sponsor 2021 Sponsor 2020 Sponsor

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    I'm looking at this set-up . Guys seem to like it a lot :
    3 year warranty.
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    May be good for this old Nail bender ? :)
     
    Last edited: Oct 27, 2020
  8. Oct 30, 2020
    IRQVET

    IRQVET Bubbaification Exorcist

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    Can't go wrong with the Hobart 140, its bullet proof from what I've heard.

    I went a few levels up and got the Hobart 210. Its more than what I need but I wanted something I could grow into so to speak if I never decide to weld thicker stuff (which I don't really do much of, but at least its an option).
     
  9. Oct 30, 2020
    Lockman

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    Yes Sir ...... I hear you. The PrimeWeld has the Plasma cutting capability , which really interests me. Best of both worlds, so to speak . :waiting:
     
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