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Early Cj5 Seat Measurements

Discussion in 'Builds and Fabricators Forum' started by Thunderkiss65, Jul 11, 2022.

  1. Jul 11, 2022
    Thunderkiss65

    Thunderkiss65 New Member

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    Hello, I am needing the measurements of early low back factory seats. I plan on building my own seats for my jeep, the ones that are in it are mismatched high back seats which are very ugly and positioned too high. I haven't nailed down a solid plan, I would like to build more factory correct seats but I am considering bomber style with separate seats and mounting brackets. My fuel tank is still under the drivers seat but the tool box is no longer under the passenger seat, although I may add that later. I haven't decided if I will use springs or foam pads for cushions, they just need to be lower than 8 inches from the top of the tank to the top of the seat bottom including the brackets. Thanks,.... oh, long term comfort isn't an issue. I only use it as a UTV around my property.
     
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  2. Jul 12, 2022
    Buildflycrash

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    I'm sure someone has original seat frames, Maybe try posting on the "Restoration and Research" section. Making seats from scratch sounds like a big project - are you needing ALL the measurements and ALL the angles ALL the thicknesses of ALL materials? Maybe be a little more specific on what you are wanting.

    There are several photos in this thread. I searched "original seats" > thread titles only.

    http://www.earlycj5.com/xf_cj5/index.php?threads/128706/
     
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  3. Jul 12, 2022
    Thunderkiss65

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    Thank you, I didn't see that post, and I didn't realize that those seats had steel frames like that. I was going to use tubing for the main structure, and removable pads. So I guess I only need the overall height of the seat back, width and length of the lower seat portion. I want a simple, weather resistant seat, more like the military seats. I just don't want them too look too big or too small in the jeep. Thanks
     
  4. Aug 7, 2022
    Thunderkiss65

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    Still need rough outside measurements of early original low back front seats. Width, and depth of seat bottoms width and height of seat backs. Bare tube frame measurements would be great and iI will figure out the padding thickness. Pics of a tape measure across the seats would also work. Thnx
     
  5. Aug 7, 2022
    PeteL

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    Just a thought - Smitty LowBacks are not a lot of money, and look close to OEM. Work great for me, on custom sub frames to lower them as much as possible
     
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  6. Aug 7, 2022
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    Thanks, did you make your own custom sub frames?
     
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    PeteL

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    yup - welded some water pipe bent to look like the original style. Posted pics here several times before. This is the drivers side, made the passenger fit with the OEM demountable hinges.

    Set the seat height and angle with spacers under the seat.


    CJ5 1957 driver seat mount for Smittybilt.  Custom.JPG
     
  8. Aug 7, 2022
    Thunderkiss65

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    That's what I'm talking about. But I want to make the whole seat. Your mount looks perfect. I don't want to buy seats, I would rather put that money into new leaf springs and shocks or a metal top. I just wanted to get a ballpark measurement on the seats so I have an idea of where to start. My seats are cobbled in mismatched high back bucket seats that are ugly and positioned wrong. The driver side seat is a Bestop and the passenger seat is a jeep seat (I just discovered that today, it is so faded you can barley see the jeep logo) So I guess I will tear that one apart and mimic those measurements in my design, only low back.
     
  9. Aug 7, 2022
    PeteL

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    I admire your ambition. Not sure it will save any cash.

    I'm unclear if by "early" seat frames you mean the original 1950's type one piece rigid-frame seats with coil-spring cushions. They did not have any "logo" on them.
     
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  10. Aug 7, 2022
    Thunderkiss65

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    By early I mean the ones with the tube frames that mount like yours. I have most of what I need. My passenger seat is out of a newer cj I assume. It is a high back with Jeep printed on the material in the center. My jeep is a 65. Thanks
     
  11. Aug 7, 2022
    boopiejones

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    I recently made seats for mine. I wanted something nice and low, as I have a long torso and was literally looking over the top of the windshield with smittybilt seats.

    Water pipe for the lower frame and angle iron from old bed frames for the seat and back sections. Cushions are plywood covered with foam and canvas.

    The bottom cushions are 18x18 inches and the back cushions are 15x18. Back extends about 18 inches above the seat cushion. Angle is pretty reclined, definitely more than any stock Jeep seat. Not sure the exact angle but I just eyeballed it to fit best in the wheel well.
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    boopiejones

    boopiejones I can’t drive 55

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    Howard Eisenhauer

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    Like these? These would be correct for a '65
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  14. Aug 8, 2022
    Thunderkiss65

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    Thank you. Very nice , that is more of what I have in mind. I need to keep the bottom low too, the Bestop driver seat has me looking right into the top of the windshield frame. I am pretty sure the passenger seat is out of a YJ, it is comfortable so I may copy the angle from that seat.
     
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