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1957 CJ6 + 2000 TJ = ? (Building a CJ6)

Discussion in 'Builds and Fabricators Forum' started by don87401, Nov 24, 2013.

  1. Sep 10, 2021
    don87401

    don87401 Member 2022 Sponsor

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    This was about 2 weeks ago
    Kinda of a quick up date on this. Been taking it on short drives and trying to work out bugs. There have been a few. Thought I had the cooling figure out took a longer drive and it was getting hot again. Figured that out, to small of a circuit breaker for the fan it was shutting off took out the breaker installed the proper value fuse instead. Took it to a shop to get the A/C system charged. I installed the system myself from parts from Jeep Air. Bought a crimping tool made my own hoses. First time at that and all but one leaked. So off the hose shop, had them make me new ones. Charged the system, it worked. In the process of changing the system we started and stopped the engine several times through out the day then all of a sudden it would not start. I had no idea why. The mechanic and chased that for half a day trouble shooting guide from Howell sent us to a couple of different parts to change no luck. He was out of ideas. Called Howell they said check for voltage drop at the injectors of the throttle body, if it drops below 11 volts it is a power issue feeding the ignition system. Found that was the case. Thought about that for a while and checked the fuses to the system. Found a fuse that tested good with the ohm meter but on close examination with bright light you could see that it had burned. Must have fused back together to make continuity but not carry the current needed. Replaced the fuse and it started again. Drove around parked and tried to start. Wouldn't start check fuse again it had blown. Replace with a stepped up current rating and so far it is working good again. Drove it home about half way home the NEW (rebuilt) A/C compressor siezed up burned up the belt, Made it home got another compressor under warranty have changed it out now to the the A/C shop for service again. My Speed Hut oil gauge quilt. Hooked up a mechanical gauge and have oil pressure. Have to trouble shoot that still. BUT when it is on the road it drives pretty nice.

    This was as of today.
    Took the CJ6 to the AC shop they have had it for a week and a second compressor failed we are tying to find out why. Talked to a lot of people about why. Gave up on the "New Compressors" and flushed out the old orginal one that was on the motor. One of the experts said we were not putting in enough Freon resulting in low pressure (Kit book said 15lbs.) He said at just 15 it would not carry the oil through the system, need to up the pressure. He recommended 30 but the guys in the shop tried that and the high pressure be came to high so the went down to 25 and the high settled down. Every thing was cooling good they let it run for and hour and every thing worked. Ran it another hour the next day still good. Picked it up this morning and drove it home stopping for and errand or two and everything worked fine so maybe we have finally have it figured out and done! I now have 99.6 miles on it. We have a local Jeep show tonight I am going to take it down and show it off. The local Jeep Club, Cliffhangers sponsors a week long event here in Farmington NM and most years end with W.E. Rock having there finals just out of town.
     
  2. Sep 17, 2021
    don87401

    don87401 Member 2022 Sponsor

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    Took it down to the local 4x4 Downtown take over last Friday.

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    Wednesday ran the gas tank down to near empty, started sputtering on curves. Dumped in a couple of gallons of gas and set the Speedhut gauge for the empty setting. Took it down to the gas station to fill the tank to set the full level. Got it filled up and went to leave turn the key powered up the gauges and to the start position AND NOTHING! Not cranking. Towed it home, pushed it in the shop jumped the starter solenoid got it started. Looks like a revisit with the ignition switch on the column.
     
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  3. Sep 17, 2021
    givemethewillys

    givemethewillys Been here since sparky ran it. 2022 Sponsor

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    Loooove your Jeep, you did such a great job on it! I hope you figure out the gremlins soon and get to enjoy it
     
  4. Jan 3, 2022
    don87401

    don87401 Member 2022 Sponsor

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    It has been a while, I have been traveling and chasing other issues on other Jeeps sooooo.....

    Finally got some time to mess with the CJ6 without having to run off for something else. Messed with the switch started once then not again. Took the switch off and plugged every thing back in and actuated it by hand Jeep started. Put it back on wasn't set right not in sync with the key position, took it off reset it to right place and tried again every thing seemed correct with the key activating like it should but not turning over. Back to the drawing board (now remember I am not a pro mechanic). Thinking to my self why is it, I have checked every pin on the switch with meter and it should be working. Then it hit me. I don't have a boot over the floor shifter and the neutral safety switch is there, 12V to the starter goes through it, so I put my meter on the switch and tried it again and low and behold there was 12v there. Then it hit me like a hammer I have been barking up the wrong tree. Went down to my favorite independent auto supply shop and ask for a starter solenoid. He looked it up and told me he could get me a new starter and solenoid for what it cost to get just a solenoid. I said you are kidding, he said no! The solenoid listed for $90.00 the starter combo was only $50.00 so took the new starter and solenoid and ran. Installed it, turn the key and it cranked over. YEA......it did not start. Ok why did it not start. Check voltage to the coil none! Started digging through paper work where does the 12V come from. The starter switch, to the fuse block, to the coil. OK fuse block, check it. While building this Jeep I added a piggy back fuse holder to power something else and messing with everything under the dash I had pulled this out of the fuse holder, it had been plugged into the coil position, plugged it in, hit the starter the rest is history now.

    Just a reminder check the easiest thing to replace first!
     
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  5. Feb 27, 2022
    don87401

    don87401 Member 2022 Sponsor

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    Before the starter issue I had been driving it and the brakes were not quite right. So after I got it going again I took to the shop I had got the power booster from (Navajo Brake Booster/ OffAgain) to have them look at it and check the brakes. They gave me the rod for the brake pedal and set the distance so I figured I would let them figure it out. Told I was not in a hurry so they have been taking their time. I check in once in a while. But they have not found the final solution yet. The rod and setting was wrong when I put it in. They pulled the booster and figured that out but being I had been driving it they said that they were not going to take a change with that master cylinder so they ordered a replacement and installed a new one. They pressure bled the system test drove it not happy still looking for and issue. The pedal feels good when you drive it but after coming back and letting is sit the pedal goes away again Sooooo................The rest of the story....

    Got my CJ6 back from the shop they found the elusive, unusual, problem. And the mechanic had a good laugh. The issue with master cylinder was necessary and everyone was perplexed when it didn't solve the problem. They decided to isolate the front and just test the back. Every thing worked fine. So they reversed the block and isolated the back and found the problem was in the front. They pulled the wheels and the mechanic spot the issue right away with a chuckle he said the brake pads are on the wrong sides of the rotor. The caliper pad was switch with other pad. Guess who didn't know better when he put them in............. me! Got them in right and a miracle happen the brakes work!!!.
    Now on to the next gremlin that pops up.
     
  6. Feb 27, 2022
    jeepstar

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    what does this mean?
     
  7. Feb 27, 2022
    Jw60

    Jw60 Sitting up n buckled down. 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

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    On the chevy calipers the pads aren't the same inside to out. There are some ears that if I recall can physically hang up reducing travel.
     
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  8. Feb 28, 2022
    johneyboy03

    johneyboy03 The green beast

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    Yes inside and outise are different, but they will a pain to install them backward...
     
  9. Feb 28, 2022
    don87401

    don87401 Member 2022 Sponsor

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    Yep they are different but I managed to get it wrong!!!!! But they did go in. They said the spring on one is the piston side the spring is supposed to fit in the piston from what they said. I thought is was to keep tension........I got it wrong. I think this was my first time messing with disc brakes I knew shoes on drum brakes are different.
     
  10. Mar 20, 2022
    don87401

    don87401 Member 2022 Sponsor

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    Chasing another gremlin, head/running lights not working now.
     
  11. Mar 21, 2022
    johneyboy03

    johneyboy03 The green beast

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    Seem like the switch....switch doesnt like the new headlight. You may need to put a relay to run them.
     
  12. Mar 28, 2022
    don87401

    don87401 Member 2022 Sponsor

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    You may be right. The first switch failed. Tried a second one, could not get that one to hold the knob shaft in. The 3rd one finally worked. We will see if it holds up, if not, you are right in with a relay.
     
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  13. Apr 16, 2022
    don87401

    don87401 Member 2022 Sponsor

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    While playing with headlights I noticed the voltmeter was only showing 12v with the engine running. Had the alternator checked it had failed. It was the original one that was on the motor. So down to my favorite parts shop. They suggested self energizing alt, I bought it took it home and found it would not fit my mounts. So I took it back. They tried find a standard alt. could not find one in our small town, ended up buying a model for a different engine and changed pulleys and re-clocked the case to fit my brackets. Back working again. Starting to drive it around as my daily driver for a while and see what other gremlins pop up. I am liking the way it drives, smooth ride good handling. The brakes are working great. Looks like it is going to be fun to drive.
     
  14. Apr 16, 2022
    Buildflycrash

    Buildflycrash More or Less in Line. 2024 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

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    Great your driving it. Congratulations. Went back to look at your first post - May 2013 !! Way to stick with it.
     
  15. Jul 16, 2022
    givemethewillys

    givemethewillys Been here since sparky ran it. 2022 Sponsor

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    How's your jeep, any updates?
     
  16. Dec 28, 2022
    don87401

    don87401 Member 2022 Sponsor

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    I spent most of the summer out running around in the RV, Left town June 6 for Northern CA to Port Angles WA then from Bemidji MN to New Orleans LA. Plus the drives there and back from New Mexico. Returned home Oct 15. I have been driving it around, have about 400 miles on it so far. I have some things to work on still. I have an exhaust leak on the left manifold. Had the brake light switch fail, fix that, It is driving well on the street but I still have to work on the suspension for off road. Have to set up bump stops and figured out if I need to put limit straps on for wheel drop or change shocks. Have an oil drip to chase in the drive train.
     
  17. Dec 29, 2022
    Boyink

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    Great River Road?
     
  18. Dec 29, 2022
    don87401

    don87401 Member 2022 Sponsor

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    Yep, had a great time.
     
  19. Dec 29, 2022
    vtxtasy

    vtxtasy oldbee 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor

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    Nice build! No stone left un-turned. Following to see trail pictures.
     
  20. Dec 29, 2022
    Boyink

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    We did too. Kinda want to run it again but south to north. We missed a lot of the attractions because we started too late.
     
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