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Front Frame Rail Replacement And Crossmember Repair... And Ford Steering Box Install

Discussion in 'Builds and Fabricators Forum' started by ITLKSEZ, Dec 9, 2016.

  1. Dec 22, 2016
    47v6

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    I see the chamfer on those radius. Fill, grind flat. perfect. real nice.
     
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  2. Dec 22, 2016
    Rich M.

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    Well this is awesome! Great well hopefully my PTO shaft will shoot through the Dom I just put in my cross member. All I have to do now is source the ford box, move the shock mount, cut the fender, new drag link, torch out my gussets and make nice half moons in them,etc etc etc just love this place and you guys....:D:cool::whistle:
     
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  3. Dec 23, 2016
    fhoehle

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    Really nice work. I like your ideas of fab work. They are sharp and the little details you do make the work look really good.
     
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  4. Dec 23, 2016
    ITLKSEZ

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    Thanks guys.

    I got the front framework finished last night. With all the tabs, tapped holes, and final sizing to fit the bumper (1" had to come off the entire width of the front angle), that last piece took as long as the rest of the mount.

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    All that's left is to drill some 5/8" holes, sleeve the holes through the tubing, bolt it up, and it's outa heeeeere.

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  5. Dec 23, 2016
    47v6

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    Wow, thats really nice.
     
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  6. Dec 24, 2016
    dozerjim

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  7. Dec 25, 2016
    ITLKSEZ

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    Here's a shot of the frame without the grill in place.

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    I figured I'd throw in a little "how-to" on sleeving a through-bolt in tubing.

    I'm bolting the winch frame to the front tubing frame rails with 5/8" bolts. Probably overkill, but whatever. A 5/8" bolt is almost a perfect fit inside 1/2" pipe, which measures 7/8" OD.

    I drilled the top of the frame to 5/8", then flipped it over and drilled the underside to 7/8".

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    I then slid the pipe down into the hole to mark the length and cut it.

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    I ground a chamfer on the section of pipe, and used a 1" drill but to cut a chamfer in the hole. This valley will get filled with weld, ground flat and re-drilled.

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  8. Dec 25, 2016
    Focker

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    Now you're just showing off! :rolleyes: :p
     
  9. Dec 26, 2016
    ITLKSEZ

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    At the risk of being accused of showing off.... :susp::D I'll put and end to this thread.

    Welded...

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    Ground smooth and cleaned up...

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    All finished. Thanks for following.

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  10. Dec 26, 2016
    Oldriginal86

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    So only the top gets welded?
     
  11. Dec 26, 2016
    ITLKSEZ

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    In this case, I only welded the bottom. The sleeve is essentially only there to keep the tubing from collapsing when tightening the bolt, so it technically doesn't have to be welded in place. I welded around the 7/8" hole in this case because I felt that that big of a hole would effect the structural rigidity of the tubing. I would have welded top and bottom if the 3/16" wall tubing wasn't already sheer overkill.
     
  12. Dec 26, 2016
    ITLKSEZ

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    Let me elaborate on that... I wouldn't have needed to weld the sleeve in place if I would have slid the sleeves in from the open ends of the tubing. But because I dropped them in through a hole bigger than the sleeve, I needed to essentially turn the 7/8" hole back into a 5/8" hole... the act of welding the sleeve in place in the process was an added bonus.
     
  13. Dec 26, 2016
    Oldriginal86

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    The work you've done here is awesome. I know I've picked up some tips and hope others have. Feel free to share during all your projects.
     
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  14. Dec 27, 2016
    ITLKSEZ

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    Thanks for posting O86. I always wonder if these threads get looked at, or just passed-over by all but a few die-hards.
    Like any fab work, this was just my answer to issues at hand, not necessarily the best way or a perfect solution. But I figure, as in any project, there are enough tips that have been learned over the years to take the time to post and pass on. (y)
     
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  15. Dec 27, 2016
    dozerjim

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    I appreciate the ideas and workmanship....thanks.
     
  16. Dec 27, 2016
    givemethewillys

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    Great work, I'm following along with interest!
     
  17. Dec 27, 2016
    Bajatransit

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    i am enjoying this thread. Keep it going!
     
  18. Dec 27, 2016
    jeepermc

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    I like it too. I'm pondering doing a power steering conversion on the Cj-6 since the new 4.203 came with a gear driven hydraulic pump off the back of the front cover. That steering box looks like it might work better than the normal Saginaw conversion box in my situation. When we built the winch mount we never planned for a power steering conversion.
     
  19. Dec 27, 2016
    Warloch

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    I'll add a trick for posterity and others who may be looking for ways to afix to frames.

    I sleeve my mounts (Saginaw, Bumper, and Winch Mounts) using either black pipe nipples welded on both ends for a through bolt or a thick wall solid welded on one end and threaded inside for a blind bolt setup.
     
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  20. Dec 27, 2016
    givemethewillys

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    Warloch, would you happen to have pictures of this procedure? While it sounds elementary, my neanderthal mind can't wrap my head around what you're saying. I'm very interested, however.
     
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