Power Trax No-Slip

I kinda inexperinced when it comes to lockers, but I got acouple a questions. I got a'74 CJ-5 witha dana-30 in front and 44 out back. Could you install the Power Trax No-Slip in both ends or is it just more common to put the No- Slip up front and a Detroit in the back. Another question, does the Power Trax No-Slip have wear issues, meaning does it need to be replaced every other trip to Telico? Thanks for any information.

 

You may want to talk to J.Mcdavid, I'm pretty sure he has one in the rear of his YJ.

 

Thanks for the information Joe.

 

No problem.

No locker on the market will need to be replaced after a few trips unless you shred a R&P or something major.

As for the front or rear, people will argue for either one. Personally I have an Aussie Locker up front and am very pleased with its performance. A rear would help on hill climbs and ledges but I occasionally drive in the rain and snow so I didn't want to deal with the issues a rear locker would cause in those conditions.

 

So you don't neceseraly have to have one in the rear, but up front for sure.

 

No, I'm not saying that at all. A locker at either end will have its benefits in certain situations.

 

Alright , I'm startin' to get what your'e saying about a locker in the rear helping on hills and ledges. I'm gonna' PM Jerry and see what he can tell me about his YJ. Thanks for the help.

 

Duke, the No Slip is the way to go. They are much smoother than the Lock Right as far street driving goes.
If you just want one locker I'd go rear. The reason is on hill climbs ledges etcs more lbs are on the rear than the front due to tranfer.
With the No Slip it is the best drop in locker for the front.
If you want the best off road performance I'd go with front and rear.
Try the rear out 1st and if you still dont have enough go for the front as well.

 

I was about to PM you but I seen you jumped in. OK, you say start at the rear. I've heard people talk about wear issues. How long have you had youres in? What kinda service should I expect if I put one in? Thanks for your help.

 

Mine is a Quick Lock , but I know a few guys that run the No Slip. In fact I had one for the YJ and fell into this locker for next to nothing. So I sold the no slip. All the ones I know of have been running for at least 3 years with no problems at all. I have had mine in for a tad over 2 years now. Did 18 trips last year and will be close to that agian this year. No probs at all.
They just replace the spider gears and how often do folks replace those?
Have you seen their web site at Powertrax? Very good info.

 

Well, you've pretty much told me all I need to know and answered all my questions. Hadn't been to there web site yet, check that out next.
3 years with no problems,that sounds like real good service. Thanks for all the information, the Power Trax is probably the way I'm gonna' go.
Thanks again.

 

Any time Duke
I think you will be happy with it.

 

I have the no slip in the rear of mine and a lock rite up front. Starting with one in the rear is probably a good bet, you may be happy with it with only the one. One in front will definitely affect handling to some extent if you drive it on the road in snowy weather for example.
Issues I have had. I have a lockrite in the front of my wifes 83 cj7. Went to pull out the driveway in 4wd one day and the front just locked, wheels would not turn. What happened, the spider gear shaft, (cross shaft, no spiders with the locker) had come out, the roll pin that secured it had worked out. The shaft lodged on the ring and pinion and broke, and scarred the ring gear, luckily not bad enough to need replacement. Lucky I was just pulling out the drive when it happened or could have grenaded the entire diff. Moral--Always use a new roll pin, clean well and use loctite.
Second, you probably have the one piece shafts in your dana 44 so won't be an issue for you, but on my 2 piece, the end play is controlled by a thrust block within the diff. The no slip DOES NOT have a thrust block. After install I could not get any endplay adjustment. Thought about it and realized the problem. I took the old thrust block from the open diff, and it would JUST BARELY squeeze thru one of the axle shaft holes on the no slip. So I slipped it in there and assembled it that way, otherwise there is no way to install the thrust block. The crazy thing is the instructions MADE NO MENTION OF THIS at all. And this is for a dana 44 19 spline where all the applications are 2 piece and require the block for endplay adjustment. I just couldn't believe it. Bottom line though it works fine, is not as harsh as the regular lockrite, absolutely no clicking on my daily driver. You still feel it but for me it was easy to get used to, and since I have had lockers, it will always be the first mod I do to a new vehicle. Engine, tires, gears, suspension, none matters if you aren't getting power to the ground at all the wheels.

 

Dang, sounds like a close call coming out the drive way. Thanks for the heads up on using a new roll pin and loctite. To begin with I thought of goin' with a winch instead the locker, but I'd realy rather make improvements to the jeep itself such as a power trax or suspension upgrade etc...but what you said makes sense, none of it matters if you can't get the power to the ground. I just got off of Power Traxs web page, and these things are made in Liberty, South Carolina. Maybee 35-45 miles at the most from where I live. Small world.

 

I agree with Joe. I have a Detroit in the rear and a Lockright in the frint, and I don't drive it in the rain for that very reason. But it doesn't rain much here in Havasu.

If I were going to drive it much in the rain, I would definitely go with one of the limted slips in the rear. Or the Detroit "Electract".

 

Guys I drive the YJ every day rain or shine, and the rear locker is not that big of an issue. I know the YJ is longer and wider, but still.
You just have to learn/watch when to gas it.
Besides slideing is fun.

 

yeh it is fun. till you do it with a cop nearby. in va thats reckless driving. heck it is it wet and i pull away from a light and opps spin the front tires in the neon on the wet paint then i could get pulled. and it happens too!

 

I drove mine in the snow, sleet, freezing rain mix we get here and it did fine. Course I dont bonzi it.

 

Duke, a winch definitely has a use, but the way I look at it, it adds around 100 lbs of weight to the vehicle for something that is used 1% of the time. Since I got to Hawaii I took the Warn 8000 off the wifes 83 cj7 due to it never being used. Every axle has a differential, so it might as well be a L/S or locker.

On my wifes 83 cj7 we have the trac loc rear (like nothing really) and loc rite front. In the snow in 4wd it would lurch right when you let out the clutch and left when you gave it gas. If you fought it you were all over the road. If you ignored it, it would immediately come back to center and continue forward. Just had to get used to it. I haven't driven my -5 in the snow (Hawaii) .... but I woudn't hesitate to.... just follow a slow learning curve till I figured out how it was going to respond.

There is no cut or dried answer... what works for one person would be intolerable to the other. The key is to set the vehicle up for the conditions you expect to encounter and judge the results for yourself.