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Pto Winch How To???

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by BobH, Jan 13, 2020.

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  1. Jan 13, 2020
    BobH

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    I have a 60 CJ5 with a PTO run winch (not wench). It is a Konig winch with a lever and a pin. I need to know position the PTO, transfer case, transmission, and the pin and lever on the winch need to be in so I can pull the cable and rewind it nice and neat. In advance, thanks for the help.
     
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    gotime

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    Hi Bob, we may need a bit more info to answer your question. I'll take a stab at it assuming you have a single stick PTO. The transfer case should be in neutral assuming you want to do this sitting still. The PTO lever should be in the aft position (pointing to the rear of the jeep). The transmission is what controls the direction and speed the winch spool moves (forward gears pull in and reverse spools out). Also, assuming you have a Koenig (not Konig) Model 100J - Here are the original directions. https://www.cj3b.info/Photos/Tech/KoenigWinch/KoenigModel100JPg2.gif
     
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    PeteL

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    Engine running, Transmission in neutral.

    Transfer case in neutral.

    Drum clutch lever up, to engage the drive dog pins.

    Using foot clutch, PTO floor lever pulled to the rear.

    Using foot clutch, engage Transmission in gear of choice. (forward or reverse, for cable in and out)

    Operate the winch by the foot clutch pedal and accelerator.

    Have a helper (safely) maintain constant tension on the winch cable to avoid tangles - and as often happens, loose loops causing destruction of the drum control lever and A-frame. Herm sells a lot of those.

    When traveling the drum clutch lever must be down and secured by its pin, thus disengaging the drum and applying the drum brake. Also disengage the PTO lever.
     
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    That link appears to be for a crankshaft driven unit, not a PTO take-off type. OP says he has a PTO.
     
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    gotime

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    LOL, oops. You can tell I have a Ramsey :banghead:

    This may be more helpful Willys Winch
     
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    garage gnome

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    The PTO winch can be operated by yourself. No need for a helper. I always do the following with mine:

    Parking brake on

    Transmission in neutral

    Transfer case in neutral

    Engage PTO

    Transmission in 1st gear

    Get out of jeep and engage winch with one hand and hold cable tight with the other (wear gloves!). It it a loose dog clutch on the winch, so at slow speeds, it can be engaged.

    Just before the cable is taut, I hop back in and give appropriate amount of gas and if needed, put the transfer case in gear to help align the jeep.

    The most absolute important thing to remember with a PTO winch is always keep the winch drum disengaged. I've seen where it has been engaged and then the PTO lever got bumped by an object or a kid and then badness happened...
     
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    Yes, of course, and I often work alone.

    But we must always keep in mind it is a powerful and remorseless machine if you stumble while "hopping in," or were to get your glove caught up in it.
     
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    garage gnome

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    A pto winch is not fast at all in first gear and at idle speed. There is ample time to get back in before it starts to move. As far as getting a glove sucked in, don’t have it close to the fairlead. Be smart and use common sense, like any piece of machinery, that is the most important thing to remember.
     
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    [Withdrawn.]
     
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    garage gnome

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    This is why I don’t offer much advice on here or any forums anymore.
     
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    Well, wasn't trying to argue, only to emphasize everyone staying safe.

    But I will apologize and withdraw my last observation.
     
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    Howard Eisenhauer

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    Once upon a time linesmen used poles with split hooks on the end when putting up cables, can't seem to find a pic but use your imagination a bit-

    upload_2020-1-14_13-45-52.png

    This is the sort of thing you want to guide your cable onto a winch spool.
     
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