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Discussion in 'Builds and Fabricators Forum' started by montanacj, Aug 6, 2016.

  1. Sep 13, 2018
    montanacj

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    Very little time this week but I did manage to make some coupons out of the extra 14 gauge cowl support piece to practice welding this material. I’m a beginner welder, did some welding in high school but that’s about it.

    Anyhow, thought it would be a good idea to practice before I weld the cowl support piece. I’ve toyed with laying a bead vs stitch welding the 14 gauge. I’m getting good penetration either way but better if I lay a short bead. Just don’t want to cause any warping.

    Feel free to give advice or critique the welds.

    Here is my version of a stitch weld
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    Here is a bead not my best work had some blow through And the fitup isn’t that great but you get the idea.

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    Back side of the stitch weld on the right and a bead on the left
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  2. Sep 13, 2018
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    At this point I’m leaning toward stitch welding to mitigate heat and blow through. Although the beads giving me better penetration.

    Again it’s 14 gauge and this piece is the cowl support. Feel free to shoot holes in my plan or give advice.

    I will add I have been practicing this weld like it would be in the Jeep thus I’m welding the inside of the cowl support.
     
  3. Sep 13, 2018
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    Here is a coupon I did a while ago after grinding. However at this point I was welding outside of the cowl support which won’t be possible in situ

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  4. Sep 13, 2018
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    i do spot welds and let them cool before welding more. skipping around and allowing the steel to cool helps with warpage.
     
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  5. Sep 14, 2018
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    14 ga is pretty heavy, so warpage should be minimal. Just don't run a continuous 5"-6" bead.
    The last photo looks like you are getting the hang of it!
    -Donny
     
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  6. Sep 14, 2018
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    ^^Agreed, I was calling it stitch welding but basically one to three welds and then move elsewhere. The 14 gauge is pretty robust and is only blowing through near edges or a corner.
     
  7. Sep 21, 2018
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    Got the cowl support welded in and fit up with the floor. Everything came together nice.

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  8. Sep 23, 2018
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    Next up was fitting the rocker panel, this required some precise surgery near the front of the rocker and firewall.

    Here it was to start
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    Got the panel off Without hurting underlying firewall/floorboard steel

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  9. Sep 23, 2018
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    Made the cut with an angle Grinder, it turned out ok, it’s like doing surgery with a chainsaw. It’s straighter then it looks in this photo.

    Halfway through the cut, I’m sure there are better tools for this but some patience and a thin cut off wheel and bobs your uncle

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  10. Sep 23, 2018
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    And it’s off, I then proceeded to play with fitment and get it lined up. Those little butt welding clamps from harbor freight help tremendously with the panels being flush with each other.

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    The good news is everything is once again squarish and the cowl support lines right up so bonus. :p

    I will say the whole things like a Rubics cube with multiple panels all meeting, it’s a measure 5 times cut once situation
     
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  11. Sep 23, 2018
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    Next up is fitting the floor pan and making that cut where the floor board comes off the fire wall. It’s a slow methodical deal but it’s fun
     
  12. Sep 23, 2018
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    Did manage to get the floor cut and test fit today, a little more massaging and it’s gonna be lined up.

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  13. Oct 7, 2018
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    Ok had a day to give to the project and it was a good one. First up I needed to get some practice welding the 18 gauge sheet for the patch panels and floors and such.
    I made a couple coupons out of 18 gauge and played with the setting on my welder to get it dialed. The goal here is minimal warping so I used the weld, planish, grind technique one dot at a time across these coupons.

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    Eventually I welded up 3 coupons and they were getting good enough to feel good about welding on the actual Jeep.

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    The limiting factor for me is the huge angle grinder for the finish grinder. I’m going to have to get a 3” roloc style grinder.

    Next I made my first patch panel, it was a whopping half inch wide and maybe 4 across, the fit up is good and I’ll be welding that in next time.
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    Made time for a morning hike in the rain with the dog before working on the jeep. She’s a total goofball, always posing like this and playing with sticks running around.
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  14. Jan 4, 2019
    montanacj

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    My build is on hold for life and the holidays but visiting the page and seeing what others are up to motivates me. I’m gonna have to get some heat for the garage. I’ve got one of those torpedo afterburner heaters but I’m thinking maybe a mister heater portable buddy or other. I work outside all day so it’s hard to get motivated to wrench in the cold on my day off.

    Stay tuned.
     
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