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The Big Blue Car, Jw60's Expedition Max & Ozark Lite 1650bh

Discussion in 'Quitters' Club' started by Jw60, Sep 16, 2020.

  1. Mar 24, 2021
    givemethewillys

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    Sfaulken, I think we're making the same point. My mind was going to the smog pumps and air injectors of the 70's, but I'll agree that things didn't really get dialed until the 90's like you said. My point is that gasoline emissions equipment is pretty dialed in.

    Modern diesel emissions seems to be leaps and bounds better than it was 15 years ago too. My experience comes from the 2005 f250 6.0 that I loved/hated, and the 2010 bmw x5 diesel that I still own. The emissions equipment is problematic in both of those vehicles, but you hear a lot fewer problems with def, dfp's and egr's than you used to. Yes they're still expensive to replace, but that's not the point of this discussion.
     
  2. Mar 24, 2021
    Jw60

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    Well let's not talk about cam phasers, the life expectancy of gas turbos, plastic pressurized intake tubes, plastic radiator hoses, or the 12 fuel injectors.

    But it looks good and goes fast.
     
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    Jw60

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    But you guys have skirted some key points.
    40k miles as a rental = cheap horsepower with all the "new stuff".
    We will be able to trade this in later as say a 5yr old two owner vehicle with typical mileage and no rust.

    The powertrain is so common parts aren't an issue.
    I absolutely hate cars like the v8 sho with one off engines.

    Just for reference our loan for this will be paid off in the next 3 years so we are not upside down by any means.
     
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  4. Sep 23, 2021
    Jw60

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    Still going strong at 51k miles.
    of our milage:
    over 2000 was a road trip with just the car loaded and got a steady 23mpg.
    Another 2000 was towing the camper to Colorado with a steady 10.5mpg
    About another 1000 towing the camper on shorter trips
    928miles towing the Jeep at 15mpg.
    Around town I believe we are at 16mpg.

    Everything is the same mpg as the Flex when not towing. I think the camper is about 8mpg with the Flex mostly due to the lower profile of the car exposing more of the front of the trailer. The Flex hasn't needed to pull the Jeep, I have no reason to try and I'm confident it will not be fun.

    I feel like we are definitely using this vehicle and it is working well for us. Towing is pleasant, pulls the camper with ease. The HD tow package would just be icing on the cake.

    [​IMG]Screenshot_20210922-220006_Gallery by Joe with a jeep, on Flickr
     
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