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Toyota Tacoma

Discussion in 'Quitters' Club' started by FinoCJ, Jun 29, 2021.

  1. Jun 29, 2021
    FinoCJ

    FinoCJ 1970 CJ5 Staff Member 2021 Sponsor 2020 Sponsor

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    I keep saying we are going to move on from my 2010 tacoma one of these days - its been the best DD I've ever had. We bought it at one year old with a bit under 10k miles, and I've had it since and now has 170+k. I've been slacking just a bit on maintenance as I haven't been planning to keep it much longer, but the price of used and new vehicles post Covid is pretty insane. So as the truck is going to have to hit the road again later this summer and fall for more big trips, I am biting the bullet and putting a bit of money into it to make sure its good to go for the next year and then maybe a replacement can happen. Of course, last fall it got a new frame from Toyota as part of the recall, and I put some new (albeit slightly budget) tires on it. I was feeling like it was time for new shocks - still running the OEM bilstein 4600 after 170k.

    I was figuring I'd just replace with the same, but it seems the new tires are ever so slightly bigger then the previous sets of the same size from a different manufacturer and its causing some annoying rubbing under compression/sharp turn. Maybe the front springs are starting to sag just a bit etc, plus with the new frame, it also got fresh new rear leafs that lifted the backend up just a bit and it seems to have more rake angle than ever before...I thought I'd look around for the adjustable ride height bilstein 5100 shocks and found a set lightly used on FB marketplace and they even included new OME front coils. But the coils are not stock replacement, but rather 2.5" lift springs (the shocks are OEM replacement length).
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    The price was a good enough deal just for all 4 shocks (2 rear non-adjustable and 2 front adjustable coilovers, and swaybar relocation spacers included). If I use the OME springs - which usually have great ride quality - all the better deal, but guessing I might be posting up some OME tacoma lift springs for sale and recoup a good chunk of money.

    After a day of thought, I don't think I am going to use the coils - 2.5" of lift is probably more than I want. I was planning to just use my OEM springs and set the strut ride height up about 1" to help the front tire clearance and level the truck a bit, but I still want a bit of rake and don't want to be riding low in the rear when the bed is loaded. The coils are OME 888x springs - which are tall/longer than stock, but also soft for flex. Some complain that if the front end is loaded down with additional weight like heavy aftermarket front bumper and winch, the spring will sag a lot (there is a different spring that has a higher spring rate for heavier set-ups)...I don't have anything aftermarket on my front end, but taller soft spring doesn't side like something I want to do on my DD...Using the stock spring with the strut positioner, the spring will get some pre-compression and will ride a bit stiffer, but thinking of only going to the first position for just just about an inch of lift (and not the higher 1.5-2.5" positions) and with all the street use it gets, it might even ride a bit more stable in the corners? Whaddaya yall think?
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    Anyone here is a comparison of the shock tube diameter of the OEM 4600 and the aftermarket 5100 - amazingly, the old 4600s still seemed to have a lot of life left in them after 11 years and 170k miles. I guess I am used to the cheapie hydro shocks I run on my jeeps - they don't seem to last a few years.
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    After dealing with some frozen up fasteners (and this thing was just apart less than 9 months ago!), I got the rears installed...fronts are a work in progress...
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    Time to finish up the front coil-overs (and new serpentine belt going on while the front skid plate and other stuff is off). Need to get the windshield replaced as well - but apparently the hail storm from a couple weeks ago has everyone way backed up and I can't even get a quote or returned phone call. I replaced the front brake pads for the first time at close to 120k, but didn't do the rotors...and the rear drums have never been touched (I checked them when tires are rotated). Might be time for complete brake overall, and I am not sure about some of my steering linkage and cv joints etc, but they may be on the list as well. I am sure as soon as I do all this, I will find the perfect replacement vehicle and have to sell it!
    Willys? Do I have a willys project I am supposed to be working on? Just ignoring that for now...need a break from that frustration.
     
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  2. Jun 29, 2021
    ITLKSEZ

    ITLKSEZ Hope for the best, prepare for the worst

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    Those are the kinds of repairs that make such an improvement, you’ll wonder how you were driving it before, and you won’t want to get rid of it.

    That’s why my car has 464k on it and I can’t bring myself to scrap it. I know it would only take a few hundred $ to make it feel new again.
     
  3. Jun 29, 2021
    Jw60

    Jw60 Perfectly Within Tolerance 2021 Sponsor 2020 Sponsor

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    As long as it isn't an uphill battle against rust I'ld say you are ok investing a little into maintenance issues.

    Our little Flex just got new front A arms and front wheel bearings this summer. It has it's front wheel drive weaknesses when towing but overall I enjoy driving it and it does everything I need 6 days a week.
    Can't let it do everything or I won't need a jeep.
     
  4. Jun 29, 2021
    FinoCJ

    FinoCJ 1970 CJ5 Staff Member 2021 Sponsor 2020 Sponsor

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    Maybe if it could get a bit bigger bed and more towing capacity that would be true...its been the perfect truck for the past 10 years, but situations and desires change.
     
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  5. Jul 1, 2021
    FinoCJ

    FinoCJ 1970 CJ5 Staff Member 2021 Sponsor 2020 Sponsor

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    Got the front Bilstein 5100s in....I first tried to put the entire new OME coil and Bilstein assembly in as I know the OME coil springs are really nice. But the 2.5" lift was just too much for what I wanted (and ideally would use new UCAs), and without a small spacer or AAL in the rear, the truck was looking tail low - which is not my preference. So pulled them back out, and swapped the new Bilstein 5100s into the old factory coil springs, and set the adjustable ride height 1 notch above the lowest (factory) height. Reportedly this is around 0.75" bump in ride height when using the factory springs. Removing the old shocks from the old factory springs was as expected using the standard, 2-threaded clamp spring compressor. But the new OME spring did not have enough gap between the individual coils to fit the clamps - I finally gave up and took them to a local shop that sometimes does little cash projects I just can't or don't have the tools to do....Anyway, got the new shocks into the old springs with just under an inch of lift on the front and everything seems great (except the odd, dual thread bolt that holds the wheel speed sensor bracket to the control arm - thread is all mangled and a new one on order from dealership).

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    With the Nankang tires I put on last summer, although they are the same p-metric size, they are physically just a bit taller than the previous sets of Hankooks I ran, and have been getting just a bit of rubbing on the front at full stuff and lock - seems like that maybe gone testing around and on the neighborhood curbs. And after 10 years, I do like the slightly more level look although its still raked about 1.5 inches higher in the rear which is good. Basically it was time for new shocks, and seemed like it an easy way to get both quality new shocks and address the front ride height easily. I'll have a set of OME 888 (2.5 lift) springs for sale along with the sway bar spacer. Next up is shop work for alignment and new windshield glass next week.
     
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