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WTB Willys Wagon Ignition Switch Bezel And Retaining Spring

Discussion in 'All Other Jeep Related Classifieds' started by 48cj2a, Jan 10, 2018.

  1. Jan 10, 2018
    48cj2a

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    Need a Willys Wagon Ignition Switch Bezel and retaining spring (may be used on other Jeep Models)

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    The Spring and Bezel may be similar in design to this, but my switch does not have the big bullet on it and has threaded studs on the back:



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  2. Jan 10, 2018
    Keys5a

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    I'm pretty sure a '67 Commando uses the switch you are requesting.
    Is your wagon pre-'64 (original style body)? If so, they did not originally use the switch pictured with the spring retainer.
    The '50s thru-'64 wagons originally used a thread on bezel retainer with the threaded terminals on back.
    -Donny
     
  3. Jan 11, 2018
    48cj2a

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    The one on the key board is my original (62 6-226 Missile Trim Wagon) the pic with the spring is for reference as to what I'm looking for.

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  4. Jan 12, 2018
    Keys5a

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    You've got a Mavrick Wagon! I still question that switch you have as being original. I parted a '62 and still have another '62 parts wagon around, and both have the switch with the screw-on 6 sided chrome retaining nut. I was very happy because both these switches have "Jeep" keys. Maybe the 2WD version of the wagon (Mavrick) got a different switch with the dash overlay trim.
    As advised in post #2, I'm pretty sure the early Commando used the switch you are looking for.
    -Donny
     
  5. Jan 12, 2018
    Glenn

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    Missile trim! Never thought about it but that's a good way to describe the hood and body trim. (y) Also i didn't know the Mavericks were column shift.
     
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  6. Jan 12, 2018
    Glenn

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    FWIW my parts manual shows only the non-spring and screw on terminals ignition switch being used.
     
  7. Jan 12, 2018
    48cj2a

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    Its not actually a Maverick...
    As soon as I got it I emailed a friend you may know...Paul Barry or Willys America. He said...

    "Some folks mistakenly will call it a "Maverick" due to the trim. They came in 4 & 6 cylinder versions, and were 2 tone painted. Reasonable high up in the collectability scale in original condition. Also nice to drive in 2WD. The chrome trim is often called "missile chrome" as it resembles a rocket/missile. Approximately 52 were made with the 226 in 1962, 375 were made in 1961"


    In 1960 the same year Barney Roos its creator dies Kaiser himself yanks the Maverick Special from production so "Maverick officially stops with that new trim, the sponsorship of the TV show ends with a Hollywood writers and actors strike, and since James Garner was the president of screen actors guild and had not been paid for a year for his time on Maverick, he leaves the show."

    The common misunderstanding is that Kaiser resumes the 58167 serial number sequence making us think the Maverick continues, yet after the 1960 changeover the Standard 1960 Willys Wagon begins with 541.

    As for the Ignition...I'll send the pic to Paul and see what he says. Was hoping to get a key cut and see if it unlocks the doors.

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  8. Jan 12, 2018
    Keys5a

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    Like I said!
    All the Mavricks were 2WD with column shift. The early Mavricks had the "hockey stick" stainless a year or two earlier than it being adopted for the regular wagons and trucks. The last couple years of the Mavrick went to the 4 thin rows of stainless. These are really pretty when they have two-tone paint schemes. I have a complete set of this later style trim. The Mavrick was intended to be a more deluxe wagon to be used as a second car instead of off-road capable work vehicle. They had an unusual basketweave vinyl fabric for the seats and door panels.
    -Donny
    Edit; So they aren't all Mavricks? I need to see if I still have any serial plates from the two I have parted with this trim. I was aware of the James Garner TV series connection, but didn't know about Willys pulling the plug on the model. One of mine had a 230 ohc engine, and the other was an F134. I do have an early ('62?) Jeep brochure for "Jeep Station Wagon 2WD" that shows what I have always considered the unique Mavrick trim, but there is no mention of it being a "Mavrick". You just taught me something more about these. Thanks!
    As far as keys go, a good locksmith should be able to re-pin your lock barrel, The original keys were Briggs&Stratton. The threaded bezel type switch is much more common than the spring retained one.
     
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  9. Jan 15, 2018 at 6:01 PM
    48cj2a

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    Ok just got a reply back from Paul at Willys America:

    The picture of the switch with the push on connectors on the back side for the wires fits a J-series, that same switch with threaded studs on the back and 10-32 nuts would fit the Utility Series. That being said, I have 2 vehicles here at the house, one a 62 truck with L-226 and the spring loaded bezel, and a 62-1/2 delivery with OHC-230 and the threaded bezel. I have a couple more vehicles at the shop I can compare to...

    OK, 6 out of 6 here at shop from 1961-63, both 226 & 230, all have nuts
    BUT, My 1960 Maverick has the spring loaded bezel, and so do 3 of my FC-170, one of those is a 1959 with 3000 miles
    Ignition switch and nut: 924918 + 923709
    Ignition switch & bezel & spring 923711 + 807749 + 807743 (929964 + 931729)(when used in 1963-72 'J' series)
    Book says either one is correct for all applications except planar chassis 2-WD 1947-53

    I will say based on my CJ2A knowledge that Willys used many suppliers and that one item was used until they ran out of stock and then used the next suitable item available so I would guess this would probably be the case with this model as well.
     
  10. Jan 15, 2018 at 7:08 PM
    Glenn

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    What doesn't fit in this scheme of things is the difference in connectors. Would Willys have used 2 different wiring harnesses prior to the debut of the J series, just for the ignition switch? Do your spring loaded switches have push on connectors? If so do the push on connectors on the wiring harnesses look factory? Or do they look like after the fact swapped out connectors?
     
  11. Jan 15, 2018 at 7:46 PM
    48cj2a

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    Don't get wrapped around the newer style switch I chose to show that I'm looking for a similar spring and bezel.

    The switch is not correct but I could not find a file photo of the correct terminal and nut style switch showing the spring and bezel I need.

    I explained this right above the image: "The Spring and Bezel may be similar in design to this, but my switch does not have the big bullet on it and has threaded studs on the back"
     
  12. Jan 15, 2018 at 8:24 PM
    Glenn

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    Ahhh, I definitely misinterpreted what you wrote. I think I did focus too much on the push on connectors. Makes sense now.
     
  13. Jan 19, 2018 at 6:30 PM
    nickmil

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    If you are still looking for one of these I believe I have a switch with the spring and bezel (no key). I think it has the wiring pigtail still on the back. I don't want to dig for it unless you still need it. E-mail me at nickmiln@aol.com if you do. I'm not on here much so that's the best way to contact me.
     

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