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Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by Chris Insull, May 16, 2006.

  1. May 16, 2006
    Chris Insull

    Chris Insull All roads lead me back to the beach... 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

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    ... your wife calls and says the CJ won't start. "No problem" I say, "have a friend bring some gas, you probably ran out." No luck. Fast forward to an hour ago and I find there is no spark. Immediately I think, the Pertronix module is fried. So I pop the cap off and turn it over, but no rotor movement!! Now it gets worse, the center shaft of the distributor can be pulled all the way out! Bottom line: timing cover needs to come off because when trying to retrieve the shims from the top of the distro gear, they dropped into the cover:mad: . So, that project starts in the am. Hopefully no other damage was done... Over to Krages for all the parts needed for a cover replacement. Anyone got another Delco I can buy? (will post in WTB)
     
  2. May 16, 2006
    mb82

    mb82 I feel great!

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    That sucks, sorry to hear it.
     
  3. May 16, 2006
    BlueFlu

    BlueFlu past owner of some ecj5's

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    Man bummer.
     
  4. May 16, 2006
    jd7

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    sparky

    sparky Sandgroper Staff Member Founder

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    1/2 an hour in and out done, easy. R)

    Kidding! Sux man. I've had my timing cover off more times than I care to think about recently. So much so that I was able to get it off and back on and running in about 3 hours last time I think.
     
  6. May 16, 2006
    Chris Insull

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    I wish it would take a half hour!!:rofl: Where did you get the gasket set from? I found some P/N's thru TA Performance, but will also check with my FLAPS in the am. Nice thing about TA is they advertise a neoprene front cover seal as well. Three hours sounds about right, once all the parts are in hand.
     
  7. May 16, 2006
    sparky

    sparky Sandgroper Staff Member Founder

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    Autozone has 'em usually on hand with the Neoprene front main seal. I've purchased 3 there.
     
  8. May 16, 2006
    Hippo393

    Hippo393 Jeepless

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    I've got a gasket and a delco I can send you if'n you're interested. Gasket's a Felpro from Advance Auto...I didn't use it; it came w/ an overhaul kit.
     
  9. May 16, 2006
    gte636p

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    i think i got a delco with the engine i picked up last weekend, but it'd be next weekend before i could find out. i've already got a prestolite for my spare, and running hei so it's pretty much just another spare distributor to me.
     
  10. May 16, 2006
    zed

    zed Iowa- Gateway to Nebraska

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    sorry to hear but it sounds like you'll be running in short order.
     
  11. May 17, 2006
    Chris Insull

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    PM'd 'ya...
     
  12. May 17, 2006
    rookieupgrade1

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    Does not sound fun.

    What the heck is a Pertronix module

    I'm new to the old points dist, non electronic stuff, bear with me. If it is any consoloation I think its kewl!:coffee: My jeep is older than I am, and both are older than my wifeR)
     
  13. May 17, 2006
    Chris Insull

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    It's the magnetic pick-up for a kit (mfg by Pertronix) that eliminates the points on a Delco distributor. HTH

    Well, I got the cover off and found that the distributor gear press pin had sheared. Don't know why that happened, but it did... Good news is there isn't any other damage to the engine (and the timing chain, rub block and tensioner I installed about 9 years ago are in still great shape!!) Bad news is I remember shimming the distributor shaft (per the instructions) when I installed the Pertronix last year and the shim(s) are no where to be found in the timing cover.:mad: Looks like the pan gets dropped after lunch...:rofl:
     
  14. May 17, 2006
    sparky

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    Blech.
     
  15. May 17, 2006
    lynn

    lynn Time machine / Early CJ5 HR Rep Staff Member

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    misery loves company... My roll pin on the dist shaft sheared as well, about 4 years ago... fortunately I was only a mile from home; a Jeep buddy strapped me back to the house.

    Good luck Chris, hope it all goes back together smoothly.
     
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    zed

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    ohh mannn. sorry to hear. hopefully they are lying there unscathed.... hopin' for you!
     
  17. May 18, 2006
    Hawk62cj5

    Hawk62cj5 Captain of OldSchool

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    :( good luck chris.
     
  18. May 18, 2006
    Chris Insull

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    Thanks, guys. I found the missing shims in the oil pan when I dropped it so that's good. All parts ordered and hopefully I can begin putting it back together this weekend. Since I was removing the cover anyway, I went ahead and ordered a new water and fuel pump and thermostat since each had been on there for at least 10-12 years. I'm still trying to figure out what could have possibly caused the roll-pin to shear. There can't be that much load on it...:?
     
  19. May 18, 2006
    Hawk62cj5

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    We used to shear them alot on our racing motors , a quick snap would wipe them out exspecially if the gear wasnt real snug on the shaft.
     
  20. May 20, 2006
    jeepdaddy2000

    jeepdaddy2000 Active Member

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    In most cases, distributer drive gear shearing is caused by debris in the oil pump. you should think about dropping the pan and inspecting the pick up screen for such things as nylon timing gear pieces or old umbrella seals. These things will clog the screen, causing the bypass to open. Believe it or not, this isn't an uncommon problem.
     
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