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Clutch Linkage Hell

Discussion in 'Intermediate CJ-5/6/7/8' started by Iandavidh, Jun 23, 2019.

  1. Iandavidh

    Iandavidh Member

    So I’ve tried getting a hydraulic system on the jeep but the exhaust has screwed us in that way. Now I am trying to get the mechanical linkage back on it just so I can drive it while I am figuring out the hydraulic linkage. But now I am having problems in that it keeps coming out of adjustment and feels like it’s rubbing up against something but I can’t seem to find what. The bellcrank isn’t at any weird angles and I have a heim joint on the pedal rod that attaches to the bellcrank. I am at a loss and any input would be appreciated.
     
  2. Bowbender

    Bowbender I'm workin' on it!

    Advance Adapter chain linkage may be an option to consider. Very easy install and good reports on function.
     
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  3. Iandavidh

    Iandavidh Member

    It won’t work with my exhaust unfortunately :cry:
     
  4. Bowbender

    Bowbender I'm workin' on it!

    Take a Sawzall to your exhaust? :sneak:
     
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  5. Iandavidh

    Iandavidh Member

    I’ve been trying to find a set of shorty headers that would fit but all I find are the 4.0 ones. I actually considered cutting the exhaust at a certain point and having someone build it around the slave cylinder but figured if I could find headers that would work I would rather do that
     
  6. sterlclan

    sterlclan Member 2024 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    patriot headers make block huggers for a 304
     
  7. Iandavidh

    Iandavidh Member

    I’ve got the 258
     
  8. sterlclan

    sterlclan Member 2024 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    Is the bell crank installed in the right orientation? Check the bell crank for side to side slip I had to shim the tub side bracket to get rid of the slop. Any movement in the body mounts on the drivers side if the tub moves independently from the frame it will cause troubles.
     
  9. Iandavidh

    Iandavidh Member

    The service manual calls for an 1/8 of an inch of side slip which I have. The body does lift a bit when i push in the clutch
     
  10. sterlclan

    sterlclan Member 2024 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    It all adds up the body moving up will change the adjustment and affect the way it all works did it work before you took it apart?
     
  11. Iandavidh

    Iandavidh Member

    It worked OK I wouldn’t have called it perfect but it was better than it is now
     
  12. timgr

    timgr We stand on the shoulders of giants. 2022 Sponsor

    So it's a '73 258 T-18? Would be good to put that in your sig. It's almost always relevant, and I had to look up your profile to find it.

    The body does move a little when the pedal is pushed, but it should not have a significant effect on the clutch action. These bellchranks have always worked fine for me when the Jeep was not twisted up (one front wheel in the air and the other stuffed) or when the pushrod has not fallen off.

    You have a Heim joint on the pushrod at the clutch end? IME that's the one that fails, and it's the end with the most stress.

    If you have the factory manifolds, the '81-up exhaust is a lot smoother than the earlier exhaust-flap manifolds. Comes with an aluminum 2V intake manifold too. That plus a carburetor is probably more bang-for-the-buck than an expensive tubing header. Clifford might still make tubing headers for a 258.

    Jeep Headers
     
    Last edited: Jun 24, 2019
  13. Iandavidh

    Iandavidh Member

    Sorry I forgot to put that. The heim is on the pedal pushrod onto the bell crank. Right now it has an offy intake manifold and some unknown set of headers
     
  14. sterlclan

    sterlclan Member 2024 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    Is it on the same end of the bell crank as before? It’s the failure to stay adjusted that is puzzling.
     
  15. Iandavidh

    Iandavidh Member

    I just put the heim on it this time. I dont think that would be a problem though? I have no clue why it isnt staying adjusted
     
  16. Chilly

    Chilly Active Member

    Is it really stiff? Maybe the adjustment issue is the bellcrank tabs bending.
     
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  17. sterlclan

    sterlclan Member 2024 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    Or the rod from pedal to bell crank.
     
  18. Iandavidh

    Iandavidh Member

    That was a problem before but we just put a new bellcrank on and corrected the angles
     
  19. Iandavidh

    Iandavidh Member

    So it came out of adjustment again and we fiddled with it and moved it around a little and the pedal height returned to normal. I am completely confused:D
     
  20. Iandavidh

    Iandavidh Member

    So it came out of adjustment again. I’m wondering if my problems are more internal rather than with the linkage?

    I need help