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Coolant Temp Stuff

Discussion in 'Intermediate CJ-5/6/7/8' started by XXIIILIV, May 20, 2022.

  1. XXIIILIV

    XXIIILIV Member

    Ok, I’m resigned to being the guy asking “eye rolling” questions. I have a new temp gauge, new sender. Key off, nothing, key on, after a few seconds, full hot. Checked wire to ground for shorts. What am i missing
     
  2. jpflat2a

    jpflat2a what's that noise?

    I'd be tempted to pull the wire off the sending unit and check for power.
    It should be low voltage, 6-7 volts if I recall and pulsating with key on.
    If not, wiring/dash gauge problem. The voltage regulator for both dash gauges is built into the temp gauge ?
     
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  3. jpflat2a

    jpflat2a what's that noise?

    You can test wire at sending unit with a regular 12 volt test light; it's just that the lamp will be dim when pulsating.
     
  4. timgr

    timgr We stand on the shoulders of giants. 2022 Sponsor

    Jim is correct.

    The TSM has a complete section on testing the gauges. The sender is a thermistor, varying in resistance with temperature. The resistances by temperature are given in the section.

    The gauges work on 12V power pulsed to time-average about 5V. If the pulser does not work, you could get full 12V and see full deflection even if the sender has the right resistance. Full 12V will destroy the gauge after a while. The pulser will also not pulse if not grounded, and its default without gorund is on.

    You should be able to see the pulsing with a test light, analog meter (like a Simpson) or a scope. A good digital meter like a Fluke should sample and convert fast enough so you can see the voltage pulsing - a cheap meter will freak out. The layout of what terminals have what voltages is in the TSM.

    I wrote an"article" about building a gauge tester. Not exactly what you want, but might be helpful. http://earlycj5.com/xf_cj5/index.php?threads/143458/
     
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  5. XXIIILIV

    XXIIILIV Member

    Well, per the ladder diagram, in section 3-61, my new sending unit is bad. Seem reasonable?
     
  6. jpflat2a

    jpflat2a what's that noise?

    Anything is always possible.
    If you disconnected the wire from sender, the proper pulsating voltage was present, and the needle dropped back to "C" I would say you are correct.
     
  7. timgr

    timgr We stand on the shoulders of giants. 2022 Sponsor

    If you have access to resistors or say a 100 ohm potentiometer or rheostat, you can test the gauge like my article shows. If the sender is bad, the gauge should still respond to changing resistance, whether it's a resistor or the sender.
     
  8. jpflat2a

    jpflat2a what's that noise?

    As a reminder, don't use teflon tape or sealant on the threads.
    For fear of bad ground.