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Leaf Spread

Discussion in 'Intermediate CJ-5/6/7/8' started by Nosara, Jul 9, 2018.

  1. Nosara

    Nosara New Member

    My 1975 Cj5 rear leaf springs have broken keepers. The springs have splaid apart like open fingers. Is it worth trying to add new keepers or just order new stock springs? I do not have any lift and run 31/10.5/15 tyres. The ride is currently very rough.
     
  2. Daryl

    Daryl Sponsor

    You need to make sure that your U-bolts are tight and that no leaves are broken. You should be able to find some new keepers to keep them straight until you figure out if you need to replace the springs.
     
  3. Nosara

    Nosara New Member

    Thanks, I ordered some Keepers and will try them first.
     
  4. PeteL

    PeteL If it wasn't for physics, and law enforcement... 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    Do you mean splayed vertically or horizontally?

    Even without keepers I don't think he leaves should be splayed vertically. If horizontally, then I agree with Daryl about the u-bolts.
     
  5. Nosara

    Nosara New Member

    They are in alignment just separating like pages in a book.They are straight. I will post a few pictures.
     
    Last edited: Jul 10, 2018
  6. Nosara

    Nosara New Member

    Here are the pictures
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  7. timgr

    timgr We stand on the shoulders of giants. 2022 Sponsor

    The lower leaves are supposed to have slightly more curve than the top leaf, so the pack stays together. If they are spreading out, there's something wrong with the temper of the lower leaves.

    NB the standard rear springs on these Jeeps have two flat overload springs and only the top three leaves curve. Maybe that's what you are seeing? Like this - More Information for OMIX-ADA 1820205

    Almost every new enthusiast-owner replaces the springs on these Jeeps. The original springs will be worn out after 43 years.
     
  8. timgr

    timgr We stand on the shoulders of giants. 2022 Sponsor

    Those are toast. Replace.
     
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  9. Howard Eisenhauer

    Howard Eisenhauer Administrator Staff Member

    Those puppies are in sad shape- I'd pull them & check for cracked leaves. Looks like you have the heavy duty units as well- there's better riding alternatives both stock configuration & aftermarket.
     
  10. timgr

    timgr We stand on the shoulders of giants. 2022 Sponsor

    If they are original (likely - they look like it) they are the "HD Springs & Shocks" option for 1975. 10 leaves. The original HD suspension were most like the 1" or 1.5" lift springs sold today.
     
  11. Daryl

    Daryl Sponsor

    Check out BDS springs.
     
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  12. Nosara

    Nosara New Member

    Thanks new springs it is
     
  13. sterlclan

    sterlclan Member 2024 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    times a bunch. made a huge difference
     
  14. PeteL

    PeteL If it wasn't for physics, and law enforcement... 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    Maybe.

    But I think the situation illustrated is the irresistible force of pack-rust between the leaves. The same thing that wrinkles the girders on railroad bridges.

    Time for new springs.
     
  15. Howard Eisenhauer

    Howard Eisenhauer Administrator Staff Member

    Agree, that's what I'm thinking is doing it.
     
  16. Nosara

    Nosara New Member

    Hope to have new Springs in by next week. Looking around on options. The plan is to keep current ride height. My tyres are 31/10.5/15 and I’ve had no issues. Most off-road is sand and muddy beach roads. I will post some pictures.
     
  17. sterlclan

    sterlclan Member 2024 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    i still vote bds...after they settle some they arent that much taller than stock.
     
  18. timgr

    timgr We stand on the shoulders of giants. 2022 Sponsor

    Ok maybe 3 choices - custom - Deaver, Santa Ana CA or Alcan Grand Junction CO. Get exactly what you want, highest quality, for premium price.
    Lift springs - BDS or Skyjacker I guess. I have BDS on my CJ-6 and am pleased with them. They are advertised as 2.5" lift but they are not much higher (maybe an inch?) than the original "Heavy duty springs and shocks" that came on these Jeeps. Maybe also Rancho or Rough Country - not sure if they are still in production, but both have a reputation for being really stiff.
    OEM replacement - pretty sure that Dayton Spring is supplying a line of OEM replacement springs. Not sure whether they are domestically produced or "overseas." Omix-Ada also sells OEM replacement springs, but Omix is pretty much universally hated.
     
  19. baldjosh

    baldjosh Member

    cant even figure how many times to X2 that
     
  20. Nosara

    Nosara New Member

    This is my current look and what I wish to keep. The springs seem original and part of the HD option. The current question, are Shims needed if I stay with a stock spring setup?
     

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