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replacing floor of early cj5

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by Renegade ll, Mar 26, 2013.

  1. Renegade ll

    Renegade ll Member

    Has anyone got any tips on replacing the rusted out floors of a 1971 cj5. I was planning on removing the floor pans where they are spot welded together. I will be using Classic Enterprises replacement parts. What am I getting into?

    Julius
     
  2. wheelie

    wheelie beeg dummy 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor

    Front floors or back or both? Replacing the supports underneath (hat channels) as well? I've never used their replacement floors. I made my own once. I made the replacment floor pan first, then used it to mark the old floor for removal. Drilling out the spot welds can be a bear. Get a drill bit made just for this or, a unibit works fairly well.
     
  3. Renegade ll

    Renegade ll Member

    Thanks. It depends on how the front pans go. I may replace the back floor also.
     
  4. scott milliner

    scott milliner Master Fabricator

    I replaced the whole front floor and transfers ledge support. I can walk you through it.
     
  5. Renegade ll

    Renegade ll Member

    I plan on starting that phase of the restore when al the snow is gone and it gets warmer. I will definitely need your expertise thanks.
     
  6. kf_chris

    kf_chris Weary traveler!

    I was looking under the jeep the other day (in my spare 10 minutes last weekend!) and decided I'll be replacing the floor too in mine, as there is A LOT of rust and no floor of the toolbox area. I'll have to keep an eye out on what you gents have going.
     
  7. John151

    John151 Sponsor

    I will be watching this thread closely, so please post lots of pics.

    My floor and back are pretty good, but I do have some rust holes. I need to determine if I should be patching or replacing. Watching this thread should help be get an idea of what it takes to replace. Either way, this is not something I am going to address anytime soon, so for now, I will sit back, watch, and learn!
     
  8. scott milliner

    scott milliner Master Fabricator

    One thing I want to being up. Required tools to do this job.

    Welder
    90* Dotco (air tool) with 3" cut off wheels/ sanding discs.
    Good spot weld cutter
    Body hammer and Dollys.
    PPE equipment.
    Box of hex head sheet metal screws. (I forget the size, but it requires a 1/4" socket )

    Did I miss anything?
     
  9. PeteL

    PeteL If it wasn't for physics, and law enforcement... 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    "Did I miss anything?"

    Fire extinguisher(s)?
     
  10. Howard Eisenhauer

    Howard Eisenhauer Administrator Staff Member

    First aid kit :(
     
  11. jasonjp62

    jasonjp62 Member

    Did I miss anything?[/QUOTE]


    Lots of patients!!!!
     
  12. Howard Eisenhauer

    Howard Eisenhauer Administrator Staff Member

    A rotisserie, while not a must, will make life a lot easier.

    Also clamps, lots & lots of clamps-

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    Many more pics of my adventure with tub repair here-

    http://www.tantel.ca/Images/The Sludge Pile/Section_T_Body/

    H.
     
  13. duffer

    duffer Rodent Power

    Some panel holding clips will really speed things also. Eastwood sells a cheaper version of these Cleco clips.

    These use 1/8" hole and will suck the panels together.
    [​IMG]
     
  14. Nightstr

    Nightstr Member

  15. tarry99

    tarry99 Member


    :)These are the other type of Cleco's that use a special pliers that come in either 1/8" or 3/16" diameter hole size..............squeeze and insert the Cleco and it holds the panel in place for quick fitting and then later welding or as the aircraft industry would have done to insert rivets or machine screws.

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  16. Renegade ll

    Renegade ll Member

    Well I have been doing a little wire wheel work to see how the rivets are spaced and to see if they are fairly easy to expose. I called Classic Ent. and talked to a guy about what they have for the floor area. There was some confusion on which floor pan I would need. The ones for the 1971 are made with a hole under the drivers seat where a gas tank would go. I explained to him that my gas tank is in the rear. He thought that I had the same floor as the 1972. I now know that the hump in between the 2 foor panels is not available from them but I think mine is fine. I noticed on the passenger side floor near the storage comp there is a factory square hole cut out, what is that for?
     
  17. djbutler

    djbutler Sponsor

    There is a square hole in the center hump that is for PTO shifter access. I don't know about a square hole on the passenger side.
    When I did my floors on the '69 I made my own partial panels from 18 ga. To drill out the spot welds I just used a 5/16 drill, and was careful not to drill all the way through. Once the drill cut to the depth where it was cutting the full 5/16 diameter, I could use a chisel to break the remaining spot weld.

    Don
     
  18. rusty

    rusty Well-Known Member

    This is going to be a fun build . Will be watching.
     
  19. scott milliner

    scott milliner Master Fabricator

    Done need those. That's what the cheap sheet metal screws are for.
     
  20. timgr

    timgr We stand on the shoulders of giants. 2022 Sponsor

    These clamps are supposed to be good for butt welding sheet metal - http://www.harborfreight.com/8-piece-butt-welding-clamps-44751.html

    They come and go from Harbor Freight - Eastwood sells a more expensive set.

    If you have overlapping joints, I'd think the sheet metal screws would work fine. Or punch holes and spot weld with your MIG welder.