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10" self adjuster dilemma

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by termin8ed, Mar 9, 2007.

  1. Mar 9, 2007
    termin8ed

    termin8ed I didn't do it Staff Member

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    Got a problem here. I don't know that these brakes were set up right to begin with, in fact, I know parts where in the wrong place.

    But,

    I thought I had it right. I allready have the right side done and tire back on. Setting up the left side and ran into a little problem with the adjuster. They're backwards.
    I posted 2 pictures one with and one without arrows that show how I "think" they are supposed to work.

    You are looking at the right side, front is to the left.
    Left adjuster is on left(drivers) side of jeep
    Right adjuster is on right(pass) side of jeep.

    When the jeep goes in reverse,(red arrows) it is supposed to cause the linkage rod to pull up on the cam mounted to the rear shoe. that pulls the lower link up and pulls on the adjuster. When you let off the brakes(yellow) the shoe moves back in and allows the linkages to drop back down and push the star wheel so the front side of the wheel turns down so it expands outward and causes the gap between the shoes and drum to be taken up.

    Problem is right now with the L adjuster on left side, it tightens the star wheel so it will shrink the gap between the bottom 2 shoes and cause the shoes to have a huge gap between the drum.

    According to the manual AND my textbook, this is the correct setup.

    Did I do something wrong, or do I just have the adjusters on the wrong sides?

    --I checked the right side also and its going to have the same problem as this left side.:(
     
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  2. Mar 9, 2007
    timgr

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    Don't know the 10" adjusters very well, but they operate by the same principle as the Bendix 11" brakes. When you pull on the rod (bend it sideways), the lever should climb the star wheel. Then, when you release, the lever pushes on the star wheel teeth and the adjuster tightens. The rods go to the back of the vehicle. There's a left and right adjuster, and they need to go on the side of the vehicle so that the shoes tighten, not loosen.

    Is that how you've got it? Looks like that from your arrows.

    You need a dab of white grease on the backing plates, on any rubbing points, and on the self-adjuster screw and cap.
     
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  3. Mar 9, 2007
    kaiser_willys

    kaiser_willys Well-Known Member

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    not 100% sure but sound like to me that you need to swap the left to the right and vise versa,it is rare that the manuals are wrong but in 15 years it has occured a few times to me
     
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  4. Mar 11, 2007
    Dj

    Dj Gearhead

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    yup... remove your adjusters and unthread bolt from the other half, look at the end of it... it will be stamped "L" or "R" on the inside end past the threads... if memory serves... (rebuilt my 10" brakes 4 yrs ago)
     
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  5. Mar 12, 2007
    termin8ed

    termin8ed I didn't do it Staff Member

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    correct. There is a L and R stamped in BOTH of them. I guess what I'm trying to figure out is does the L go on the Left side(drivers side) of the jeep and same with R, right side, or does the L and R just mark the threads on the adjusters and they need to go R on left side, L on right side?


    I did look at another setup I have thats on a spare axle and for what its worth, its got the R adjuster on the left side.

    I know it will work L on right, R on left, just confuzed why everything I have says the other way around...

    Most brakes I've seen adjust by pulling up on the wheel. These seem to adjust by pushing down so maybe that has something to do with it.
     
    termin8ed, Mar 12, 2007
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  6. Mar 12, 2007
    w3srl

    w3srl All-around swell dude Staff Member

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    I think you've got it there Brian. Try swapping the star wheel assemblies L-R and R-L and you should be good to go. The rest of your assembly looks correct.
     
    w3srl, Mar 12, 2007
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