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Discussion in 'Intermediate CJ-5/6/7/8' started by goranothos, Sep 26, 2008.

  1. Sep 26, 2008
    goranothos

    goranothos New Member

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    I want to replace my shocks. To get the correct replacements, I need to know if my jeep has been lifted. Would someone please educate me on how I can determine if my 1974 CJ5 has indeed been lifted, and, if so, by how much? I know that I have stock shackles, so no lift there.
     
  2. Sep 27, 2008
    goranothos

    goranothos New Member

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    Perhaps some pictures would be helpful.

    front view:

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    driver's side front wheel:

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    wheel size:

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    front shock/leaf spring:

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    front shock/leaf spring viewed from under passenger door:

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    rear shock/leaf spring:

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    rear shock/leaf spring (another view):

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    Now I admittedly don't know much about 4x4s, but I don't believe those spring coils over the shocks are stock. I'm guessing this jeep has some lift, or those 32 tires wouldn't fit properly. The leaf springs look stock to me, and I know the shackles are stock. I'm wondering how much lift I have and what length shocks I need to replace the (obviously old) shocks that are on it now? I'm leaning towards the Skyjacker hydros, hoping they will smooth out the ride a bit.... Any suggestions (on anything really) would be welcome.

    If I need to move these pictures behind links for the bandwidth challenged, let me know and I will.
     
  3. Sep 27, 2008
    mdbeck1

    mdbeck1 55 Willys CJ5

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    I'm starting a home for wayward jeeps. You can bring it by and drop it off. The ride won't bother me. ;-)


    On a more serious note... why don't you just measure the shocks? Or take the Part numbers from the ones you have to the FLAPS.

    BTW: Nice Jeep.
     
  4. Sep 27, 2008
    sparky

    sparky Sandgroper Staff Member Founder

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    Good idea, measure the shock length. Take one of and measure compressed and extended lengths.
     
  5. Sep 27, 2008
    goranothos

    goranothos New Member

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    Hmmm, I'll crawl under it later today and try to find a part number and take a (installed) measurement. What about those coil springs? Are they part of the shock, or are they a separate piece? Is it normal to have spring coils over the shocks? Sorry, but like I said, I'm ignorant (but trying to learn).

    I have some new stock shackles that I am going to install as soon as the polyurathane bushings I ordered arrive. After that, I want some new shocks and then I'll take it to get it aligned.
     
  6. Sep 27, 2008
    Patrick

    Patrick Super Moderator Staff Member

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    Might be tough to measure the compressed length of those coilovers.;)
    Doesn't *look* like it's been lifted much if at all.
    Getting away from the coilovers should soften up the ride I'd think.
     
  7. Sep 27, 2008
    HeavyIron

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    On a more important note....

    Nice looking CJ!!R)
     
  8. Sep 27, 2008
    goranothos

    goranothos New Member

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    :)

    Thanks!

    Yes, I'm in love with it. The tub is original and is still in decent shape. So far I've replaced the tie rod ends, power steering pump, steering gear, steering coupler, spark plug wires, some hoses, speedometer and cable, and some minor cosmetic things.

    Still on the things to do list: replace fuel tank, sending unit, and all associated hoses (parts in basement), new shackles, bushings, shocks, ADD THREE POINT SEAT BELTS, remove rear seat (don't want a rear seat), remove carpet, coat the inside of the tub with Herculiner, replace wire harness. Whew! After all that (sometime next year), I'm thinking of having the tub off, media blast everything, paint everything metal with Rust Bullet, and put it all back together with stainless steel hardware and new bushings. I just need to find a way to break all this to my wife..... OTOH, she is driving a 2008 Suzuki SX4, and I'm driving a 1970 VW bug and a '74 CJ5. R)
     
  9. Sep 27, 2008
    sparky

    sparky Sandgroper Staff Member Founder

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    I've not ever had to try to measure that on coilovers just shocks so I didn't know it was an issue.
     
  10. Sep 27, 2008
    Patrick

    Patrick Super Moderator Staff Member

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    Well, you gotta find a way to compress the springs and hold them there while you measure...
     
  11. Sep 27, 2008
    sparky

    sparky Sandgroper Staff Member Founder

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    makes sense
     
  12. Sep 27, 2008
    mdbeck1

    mdbeck1 55 Willys CJ5

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    I don't know as I would bother. I might measure it under full load but I think I'd take one off and take it to the FLAPS. I don't think that they would have a way to compress it but they could figure out what it went to and maybe find a suitable replacement.

    If you really feel like you need to compress it and measure it I'd take it to a machine shop with a BIG press.
     
  13. Sep 27, 2008
    sparky

    sparky Sandgroper Staff Member Founder

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    I don't think Patrick was even suggesting that as being realistic. He was pointing out the error with my statement. :D
     
  14. Sep 27, 2008
    Patrick

    Patrick Super Moderator Staff Member

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    No, I wasn't. I merely said it might be tough..:D
     
  15. Sep 27, 2008
    mdbeck1

    mdbeck1 55 Willys CJ5

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    Hey, I wasn't totally sure you weren't serious. ;-)
     
  16. Sep 28, 2008
    springerfever

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    Good lookin' jeep.

    About a year ago, I replaced the shocks on my 75 CJ with Rancho RS9000's. Very, very happy with
    the results. Nice smooth ride and fast recovery over speed bumps. They are adjustable, but I have
    found the middle setting most to my liking for just tooling around town.
     
  17. Sep 28, 2008
    goranothos

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    After crawling under and taking a close look, I don't think my shocks are actually doing any dampening. I see cracks in the shells. I'm probably just riding on springs at the moment, thus the harsh ride.

    Yes, the Ranchos look good. I'll either get Rancho's or the Skyjackers. Anyway I'll be saying goodbye to those coilovers soon.
     
  18. Sep 28, 2008
    w3srl

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    Looks to be about stock height IMHO.

    Back in the day, those coilovers were sold as "load-levelers" for station wagons and the like. I distinctly remember that the rear shocks from a fullsize '70 Chevy wagon fit a flatty perfectly once you removed the tie-bar in the upper end of the shock.

    The coilovers may give about n inch of lift, depending on the condition of the stock springs but as mentio0ned, the ride an be horrible. YMMV. ;)
     
  19. Sep 28, 2008
    Patrick

    Patrick Super Moderator Staff Member

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    Those shock mount studs were never meant to support any vehicle weight, either..
     
  20. Sep 28, 2008
    w3srl

    w3srl All-around swell dude Staff Member

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    Details, details.... :)
     
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