Help!!!

was the body that's on the Jeep now being used as a body ?
in other words, was this a working, driving Jeep the way it is now ?
do you want to keep the CJ5 body on it ?
going back to a flatty body could pose some challenges with that engine conversion you have now.
you could extend the frame in the rear and make what you have now work.
it's been done before.

 

I thought about doing that , stretching the back of the frame, but the engine is trashed, the steering colung junk, no exhaust system, braking system junk, etc... I basically have a good frame, axles, trans and transfer case, drive shafts, and three wheels. Oh, and a title. Sooooo, now I have to come up with a plan. I figure that the place to start is to find out what I really have and go from there. As I said earlier, it was sold to me as a 53, and is titled as such.

PR

 

Don't suppose it's a very EARLY '53, using a left over 2A or 3A frame? Or an MB frame? Did the M38A1 use that tubular front cross-member at any time?

 

As someone mentioned earlier, the frame numbers would really nail it down as to what model the frame was originally built to be. Those numbers are stamped (lightly) into the passenger side of the frame under where the fender is, to the rear of the frame-mounted battery box (at least they are on my CJ-5). They should be on the top of the frame rail as you look down on it. They are not always visible until you have done some cleaning - but be gentle, as they weren't very deeply stamped on mine, and could probably be sanded away. Some people have said you can't see them with the fenders on the Jeep, but I could still see mine; that could mean that the factory wasn't always exact about where the stamp was placed. I think mine were actually closer to where the tub/firewall sits, but I haven't checked them lately. R)

One caveat here: I don't know too much about these little details on the 2A and 3A. I'm just guessing they stamped them the same as the '5. I've also read that they were stamped somewhere else toward the rear of the Jeep, but I can't recall just where to look. Someone else may know. Good luck!

 

Could just part it out and use the money for a more complete, sheep jeep.

$ and time ahead I would think.

 

You are right, but I have never been one to do the smart thing, or take the easy path.

 

The front end looks like it mounts properly, it's the body that looks long. Is there a chance that you have a 72 -75 fiberglass body mated to a early cj front end and frame.

 

mmmm, the last sentence of the original post he says,"I need info so I can get a body and get to work."

I agree with Sparky, flatfender frame, unknown model and year. I do not see the frame to bumper gussets that the 2A had, so possibly a
3A or 3B frame.

Information on the CJ2A, CJ3A and CJ3B pages can help you try to identify what model the frame came from.

Taken from the 2a page.
"Frame Number---On the drivers side frame horn--behind the front bumper. On Very Early CJ2A's it is on the inside of the frame, later 2A's has it on the outside. It will be on a small plate like the Body Number plate. Toward the end of production the frame tag may have been dropped"

Here is a link to the frame serial number stampings on the 3b page,
http://www.film.queensu.ca/cJ3B/SerialNos/SerialNosFrame.html.

You can check the rear axle, a model 41 would likely indicate a 2a or 3a and a model 44 would indicate a 3B, but axles can be swapped so this may only be a clue.
Taken from the 3a page,
"The first 3A's came out with the 42-2 rear axle, a continuation of the development of the late 2A. In the Spring of 1951 the rear axle was changed to the 44-2,".

But having said all that I think you can probably put any flatfender body on the frame without to much trouble.

Sounds like your title is for a CJ5. Don't know how concerned you are about that if your putting a flatfender body on...

A lot of work ahead of you.

 

There was no Cj-5 in 1953; they started in '55. Someone has mis-titled at some point. If the year is right, sounds like a 3B.

 

Dude, what do you plan on doing with this Jeep? We kinda need you to slow down and help us before we can help you. All we know is you have a frame and the tub does not fit. And it sounds like the motor is trashed.

But Sparky (bless him) is trying to help you. We need some good picts of the frame. More than 2. Go take about 10. Frame to body mounts, front end, rear end, front part of the frame, rear part of the frame, cross members, the part of the frame where the gass tank would sit in later cj's, etc.

Once we get this, someone can give you an asnwer as to what you have. But the Jeep tub does not appear to match the frame, as others have said.