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Spacer on bolting pressure plate on

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by jeepin_nate, Mar 28, 2009.

  1. Mar 28, 2009
    jeepin_nate

    jeepin_nate New Member

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    I have a 225 and when I blot the pressure plate and disc on the clutch compreses to far so I can't disengage the the clutch. Is there suposed to be spacers?? Please help!!:)
     
  2. Mar 28, 2009
    Patrick

    Patrick Super Moderator Staff Member

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    No spacers. Sounds like you have the wrong pressure plate or disc.
    Is the throwout fork/ bearing moving far enough? Is your pedal just really hard?
    Details.....
     
  3. Mar 28, 2009
    Boyink

    Boyink Super Moderator Staff Member

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    Hey Nate -

    Glad to see you made it here.

    (Nate bought the 225 out of Dutch a couple of years ago and is putting it into a 3B).
     
  4. Mar 28, 2009
    Patrick

    Patrick Super Moderator Staff Member

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    Ah. Welcome Nate! I didn't even notice the location...;)
     
  5. Mar 28, 2009
    jeepin_nate

    jeepin_nate New Member

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    the pedal does move hard. I put a hydralic master/slave out of a 94 wrangler in it to push the fork and I can only move the fork about or less than an inch.

    side note: As far a drivetrain goes the only thing stock is the tranny and t-case.
     
  6. Mar 28, 2009
    Patrick

    Patrick Super Moderator Staff Member

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    An inch should be pretty close to enough..... I'd bet your problem is not with the pressure plate...
     
  7. Mar 28, 2009
    andy howell

    andy howell Member

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    hey- check to make sure that the clutch disc is not on backwards & the disc hub sitting on the flywheel bolts. this will cause the exact problem you describe. ask me how i know.
    andy
     
  8. Mar 29, 2009
    jeepin_nate

    jeepin_nate New Member

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    the disc is not in backwards. I just pulled that tranny on sat to check that. Do you have anyothedr ideas to try??? The pedals are the dash and firewall mount kind not the floor kind.
     
  9. Mar 31, 2009
    jeepin_nate

    jeepin_nate New Member

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    I added a washer to each bolt and that worked. It made it the right clamping pressure but not so it dis-engaged the pressure plate all the way.
     
  10. Mar 31, 2009
    OzFin

    OzFin Vintage Jeep Guy

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    Can you show a picture? Ive never known the pressure plate needing spacers (shims).
    I believe that there are two differant length forks,you may need to change fork lengths with the hydraulic setup versus the mechanical lincage.
     
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  11. Mar 31, 2009
    Patrick

    Patrick Super Moderator Staff Member

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    If you had to add washers between the pressure plate and flywheel to get it to work, there's something wrong...
     
  12. Apr 1, 2009
    Mcruff

    Mcruff Earlycj5 Machinist

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    x2!!!
     
  13. Apr 1, 2009
    windyhill

    windyhill Sponsor

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    Do you have a pic and part # on the disc and pressure plate?
     
  14. Apr 2, 2009
    fivos

    fivos Member

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    when i convert the t90 to t18a i had the same problem. the solution was to cut about an inch from trannys input shaft where spins on the pilot bushing.
    just an opinion
     
  15. Apr 2, 2009
    jeepin_nate

    jeepin_nate New Member

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    it's works now. I drove it today.
     
  16. Apr 2, 2009
    Hansh

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    When I changed mine to a hydraulic set up I used a different fork. It was a stock GM item I got from Novak. IIRC it was slightly longer. You also have to make sure your pivot ball is good and not worn.
     
  17. Apr 2, 2009
    jpflat2a

    jpflat2a what's that noise?

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    no fair
    you have to tell what you did
     
  18. Apr 3, 2009
    windyhill

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    X2!:toetap:
     
  19. Apr 3, 2009
    OzFin

    OzFin Vintage Jeep Guy

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    Nate,Even though you got it to work there is something wrong.We are not ridiculing you with our comments,actually just the opposite.We are concerned that because there is likely something not quite right it may cause other damage or failure.By the way,welcome from Marshall Mi.Oz
     
  20. Oct 25, 2009
    jeepin_nate

    jeepin_nate New Member

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    I put 1 grade 8 washer on each bolt between the pressure plate and the flywheel. I also put a hydraulic master/slave setup of a wrangler. It works but pushes really hard. It disengages and works fine. I've been driving it for about 1000 miles and the only problem I have is that in 4 wheel high it slips and doesn't hook up but in low range it works great (2 wheel it is just starting to slip a little). My tranny is going now because it was never really that good.
     
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