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Source for Factory Manuals (FSM, TSM)

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by timgr, Mar 25, 2011.

  1. Mar 25, 2011
    timgr

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    I got a PM yesterday asking where to get the factory manual for a '57 CJ-5.

    The factory manuals were given to the dealership mechanics, and were available across the Jeep dealership parts counter. They are the best source for basic information about these vehicles.

    They can be called "FSM" (factory service manual) or "TSM" (technical service manual) or just "the factory manual."

    The source I usually use is Turners, aka "www.thejeep.com" - they've been in business a long time. They have a hot link on their front page that goes directly to the manuals.

    A '57 probably needs the "TSM-EARLY" manual. There's also a "TSM-LATE" that covers the 225cid V6 era.

    You can also sometimes find original copies of these manuals on eBay.
     
  2. Mar 25, 2011
    pwrinkle

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    i got mine from kaiser-willys.
     
  3. Mar 25, 2011
    57cj5

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    I have a Jeep universal series manual for my 57 CJ5. The manual does not indicate whether is is early or late. I was under the assumption there was also a technical manual that has more details/torque specs0etc.. thana universal manual. True?
     
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    timgr

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    Most or all of the Jeep parts dealers should have them. Walcks, Kaiser-Willys, Turners, Oconee, Morris, etc. etc.
     
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    timgr

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    These are the only manuals that I know of.

    If it includes the V6 engine, it should be the TSM-LATE, otherwise TSM-EARLY. There was not much that changed from 1955 to 1965. There may have been supplements, but the platform was basically the same until the V6 was introduced.

    Manuals won't give you torque specs for every bolt. Some fasteners are critical, and their tightness will be specified. Otherwise, just tighten it and don't break it off.

    There are guidelines for torque settings of generic bolts out there, if you are nervous about using your judgment. After a while, you won't give it much thought.
     
  6. Mar 25, 2011
    57cj5

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    My manual lists the dauntless v6 in the table of contents. I guess that means late. Since my jeep is the 57, I suppose I really need the early one. Yes?
     
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    timgr

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    Ideally, yes, but you may be disappointed in the older manual. I have not compared them side-by-side, but I suspect that the later version just has added material to cover the V6. The F4 models did not change much from the beginning through 1971.

    You have the factory publication, not the Chiltons or Haynes, yes? What specifically is missing from the one you have?

    If you expect step-by-step procedures through simple operations, you won't find that in the factory manuals. These books were written for professional mechanics who do not need to be tutored. You may want to look to old trade-school texts for that sort of stuff, or maybe the old Motor's manuals.
     
  8. Mar 25, 2011
    57cj5

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    I was just looking for different torque specs. I eventually found the spec for the pinion nut. It was mentioned already in threads but being the person I am, I just needed to see it in writing. I could not find specs on the diff cover bolt torque. I then focused on that issue and here I am. I have a set of Ford manuals for my mustang that is composed of several volumes so I assumed the Jeep had something like that. My current book has no missing pages.
    Thanks,
     
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    I think the only real difference between early and late (other than the 225) is that the early version covers 6V systems, the late doesn't. Even an FC FSM will suffice for most of the drive train and does cover 6V systems.

    If your 57 is 12V, the later FSM will be fine, and even if it is not, it will likely suffice.
     
  10. Mar 25, 2011
    Philip-TX

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    On the torque specs....

    I snagged/saved this at some point.

    Might help.

    [​IMG]
     
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    57cj5

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    Got it..thanks....
     
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    I don't have it here with me, so I can't check for sure, but I was thinking that in the back of some of the FSM sections, there was torque specs. for important things like the pinion nut, etc in that section. Also I was thinking in one of the sections towards the back of the book, there was some info on general torque specs.
     
  13. Mar 25, 2011
    57cj5

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    section U has some torque specs... Mostly engine stuff with some other chasis specs. I found the torque spec for the pinion nut in section N...during the reassembly part. No mention of diff cover. I guess that isn't much of a deal.
     
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    mortten

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    I have both books. They are basically the same. The early has some info on some attachments like the rear PTO. The late has the V-6 in it.
     
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