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m38a1 split windshield gasket install

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by Strider380, May 23, 2011.

  1. May 23, 2011
    Strider380

    Strider380 Can I have a zip tie?

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    To start off I guess I am very clueless in this topic. judging by the lack of how to articles on the internet, i guess everyone knows how to do it except me. I ordered my gsket and thought I could figure out how to install it. wasn't even really sure what that lock bead was for but i was relying on my ability to figure things out (forgetting how i never figure projects out, just screw them up)

    I've helped install windows in cars before. We'd fit the rubber gasket around the glass, lay a string in the gasket, then while someone pushes and someone pulls the string, the window would suck right in. my m38a1 gasket didn't even fit however. seems several inches too big to fit around the glass. I assume this is where the locking strip comes into play.

    is this a procedure that can be explained to me? or is it obvious I should take it to a glass company?
     
  2. May 24, 2011
    aallison

    aallison 74 cj6, 76 cj5. Has anyone seen my screwdriver?

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    Im going to take mine to the glass company.....
     
  3. May 31, 2011
    Strider380

    Strider380 Can I have a zip tie?

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    I got the windshield in with my brother. actually it was really easy and quick. that locking strip makes installation a breeze because before you install it, the gasket has a lot of play. I figured itd be best if we used Popsicle sticks (150 for $1 at Staples :) ) and lots of dish soap...and it went in with barley any convincing needed. problem is before hand, I had researched that everyone said the locking strip goes on the inside so as not to get water in it. then after I installed it I read the locking strip goes on the outside so there is less chance of the windshield flying out at high speeds due to wind resistance. Anyone know the truth? I put the locking strip on the inside. Should I take it out and redo it? I'd prefer not getting a windshield in my face. Thanks a bunch! and if anyone needs 148 rainbow colored Popsicle sticks let me know:beer::beer:
     
  4. May 31, 2011
    nickmil

    nickmil In mothballs.

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    Mine all have the locking strip in the outside. All 5 of them
     
  5. May 31, 2011
    Red

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    I ordered a windshield gasket from a Jeep parts web site. I gave the gasket and windshield frame to Safelite and had them install it. Several weeks ago I was driving along at 60 MPH and my windshield came out and hit me in the face then landed in my lap. All one piece, gasket and all, in my lap at 60 MPH. Needless to say I no longer worried about getting some coffee to help keep me awake.

    Safelite's warranty folks jumpped into the make it right mode once they realized I was saying the entire windshield and gasket came out and hit me and I had it with me fifty miles from home. (actually it didn't come out it came in.

    My point to this story is that the repair person said the gasket I was sold was incorrect (the glass was too small as well) and that the installer shouldn't have let it out of the shop. Given the amount of wind loading on our windscreens and it's potential to cause some drivers to loose control, it's probably worth the expense to let a professional put it in. Yes I realize a "Professional" installed the one that failed but if I hadn't called for warranty work I'd have put it in again woith some glue and waited for it to fail again.
     
  6. May 31, 2011
    Strider380

    Strider380 Can I have a zip tie?

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    RED thats an interesting experience. i hope you wern't injured. i wonder if my glass is too small and thats why installation was such a breeze. regardless, can you remeber if you originally had your lock strip on the inside? I'm gone move mine to the outside, and maybe put a bunch of glue in there
     
  7. May 31, 2011
    SIDSCJ

    SIDSCJ Jeep addict

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    Lock strip goes on the outside. Never ever ever seen one on the inside.
     
  8. May 31, 2011
    kaiser krawler

    kaiser krawler kaiser krawler

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    I've been in the glass business for 37 years and never saw one on the inside of a vehicle.
     
  9. May 31, 2011
    Patrick

    Patrick Super Moderator Staff Member

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    We used to install the lock strip on the inside on Postal DJ's. Supposed to keep someone from removing the glass to get into the vehicle. Beyond that, they all go on the out side IME.
     
  10. Jun 1, 2011
    Strider380

    Strider380 Can I have a zip tie?

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    sounds good to me, I am going to try to change it tonight. is there any type of adhesive I should put in there while I'm doing it. Maybe just to reduce the chance of it leaking/ falling out? Or forget the glue and just put the gasket in?
     
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