Xarm - hey I contacted mike at extreme custom , he gave me a really great price for the back half cage , I sent him a link to your thread and told him everyone that has used him has been very happy , and I think he sees an angleto the market ........ this is what he said: you should contact him and tell him your the owner of the cage project , he like-ie!!!!!!! Thanks Steve! Would you mind letting me use those picts on my site? I need some Hi Resolution Picts to send to JP Magazine for a write up. I'd like to use your's if you are OK with it. You do nice work! Thanks, Mike