Hard top question

Hey guys so I bought a fiberglass hard top that was suppose to fit my CJ5. As you can guess it doesn't but I can't figure out what it should go on.

It fits the tub perfectly and the doors seem to be right also. But the rear door bumps into the tailgate and the front window is not even close. At first I thought it was just a late model so I got out a late model window but it is too wide.

With the stock 1963 windshield frame, the top is about 4 inches to short and most importantly with either windshield the top is to narrow. I measured and it looks like the windshield should be about 54 inches wide.

You guys have any idea what this top should be off?

Picture coming, as soon as I work out how

 

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For that matter has anyone ever seen a hardtop like this on a CJ5? I have no idea what brand it is

Also, the rear hatch fits perfect - I am retarded, you are suppose to close the hatch and then the tailgate. I did it the other way around.

I am thinking maybe the late model windshield frame that came with my Jeep is not actually off a Wrangler or something

 

do the doors fit the angle of the windshield frame ? pics with the windshield up?

 

They seem to. I can see if my wife will take some pics of the doors with the windshield on. I need to remove the wiper motor first though because it hits the front of the hard top

 

It looks like to me a late model windshield would work perfect except it is about two inches wider than it should be. My uncle bought the other windshield frame and he just came in and said he bought that frame new for a CJ5. Unless they gave him the wrong one I have both and late model frames. There was only two right?

 

I have a Koenig top, not sloped on the back like yours. It is shorter than the windshield. The strips up the sides of the windshield take up the gap. Pics in a few.

 

Here is the pic of the Koenig top on the windshield. The filler strip goes up to meet the top. The drip rail is the same width as the windshield frame.



This in on a '67 CJ6. Not sure this helps you or not, just another top and how it fits.

 

I am having a hard time working your picture out. The Jeep is the grey part and the top is the red part right?

I guess the real question comes down to windshield frames. How many different types were there? And do the late model CJ5's have basically the same tub but a completely different windshield frame? The guy thinks that the top fit on a 1980 CJ5. If that is true is there a frame I can use on my 1963 tub to make the top work? If not I have a good deal on a decent fiber glass top for a late model CJ

 

The 76 and up windshields were about 54-55 inches wide. 75 down are 59 inches wide.

 

That is exactly what I wanted to know Walt. Can I use a 76 and up windshield on my 1963 CJ5? Also, what year Jeep had a windsheild that sloped but was still around 59 inches wide? That second part is not that important just curious

 

Hmm interesting Glenn. I worked out why the other window frame leans back - it doesn't It just looked like it did because it does not have the hinges or the rubber seal on it. So assuming a late model frame will work on my Jeep I could keep the top.

If someone can answer that question then I just need to decide if I want to keep the top. It is odd for sure but also exceptionally unique so it is a hard call. The top is actually in good shape and has the doors so hard decision. It is the first fiberglass hardtop I have seen for sale in over a year of looking

 

A '76-'86 windshield can and has been used on an early or Intermediate by many of our members.. I'd suggest doing a search as this has been covered ad-nauseum in the past. Lots of posts and lots of coverage.
Also, dimensionally, late CJ and YJ Wrangler windshield frames are dimensionally the same. The biggest difference us the defroster vent holes in the bottom of the frame which are different between CJ's and YJ's.


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Yes on the late model frame............but the hinges also need to be replaced with the late model hinges.........and If I remember the holes or maybe one per side don't line up. The easiest way to tell if the top is early or late is the width of the top where it makes contact with the windshield frame.........the later windshield frames as Walt mentioned are 2 inches narrower tapered at the top edge per side.......looking at it from the front the vertical edges slope in whereby the early frame is pretty much straight up and down...........also when you look at the top rail of the hardtop coming forward from behind the door opening you should be able to see that the top is tapering in and narrower in front than behind the door...........easy once you know what to look for...............Good Luck!

 

What is the pointy area above the drivers seat??

 

Nickmil I knew people had said they had made the swap but when I put what I thought was a late model frame on, it was not even close. Turns out my late model frame was not a late model frame though

I have no idea why the roof pitches up like that Colojeepguy - I have never seen anything like it. I can't decided if I want to keep it or not. I got it cheap enough and it does have the doors and all the glass but the rear hatch which is flat and has pexiglass in now.

I will try to get more pictures just to trip yall out, it is a rare top that much is certain

 

Funny that is what I thought also Glenn. Well, I don't want my windshield leaning back like that so I guess I will be selling the top. I did not pay much for it anyway. I will put it in the classifieds as soon as I clean it up some and get some good pictures

Thanks everyone, it is an odd but cool and rare top, just not right for me. Be great for someone tall because it has about 6-8 inches clearance above the roll bar