need filter help

Hello all!!! I am trying to figure out who carries the filter that goes at the inlet to the rochester 2g carb where the fuel line feeds into it. I pulled the filter out and noticed it is made from copper?? or whatever it is, but the only ones Napa had were paper type fillaments, I took them both since I was there and when I got home removed my filter and tried to see if they paper typeones would fit....doesn't look like it will.

Does anyone out there know where I can come across an original type one like I have?? I know some of you guys probably ditched it a long time ago and put a see-thru in-line type filter in but I'd like to stay stock seeing as the old CJ5 is almost totally factory original type stock except a few improvements and performance parts. ANY halp would be much appreciated.

Brian

 

I just picked up two of them at Carquest - they had about 20 on the shelf. Guys here have often recommended just taking it out which I did not understand but now I think they meant to say replace it with a see thru inline (which I also have). Possibly this was the only fuel filter from the factory? It never occured to me that there wasn't a regular inline from The Beginning.
Anyway, I run both for now.

 

the GM/Delco # used to be: 7013404

 

Picked up one the other day. It was an AC GF455. It had Jim's long number on the bag too.

 

Best place for that filter is in the round receptical. Notorious for cloging. Made a fortune off them when I worked as a mechanic in college. The later ones used a paper element in there.

Chuck it and put a good inline filter in.

Yes, it was the only filter in GM type installations.

 

thanks a ton for the info guys. I'm still considering ditching the sintrered brass for an inline see-thru filter. Anyhow great info to have.........

Brian

 

Remember, when you have a good inline filter, there is absolutely no need for the little brass one.

 

Steve: I've never put one between the tank and pump. If your tank is THAT dirty, clean it out. On mine I put a Carquest (Wix) between the pump and carb. Change every year or so. There cheap, and much better than the so called "cleanable" ones.

 

Some days I feel like I am going "against the grain" of early cj5 owners, that I naturally like because of their choice of vehicular recreation/ownership. My thoughts about removing the sintered brass carb filter is that you will increase the fuel pressure on the needle and seat.
If you have a good filter inline, like the original, you will have no problems. You just replace it at a reasonable interval. And yes, in the original form they are still made, of course they are now incased in plastic, but have all the necessary inlets and outlets.
The clear glass, aftermarket ones are nice, but my experience with them is that the cheap pot metal they cast them with, corrodes and with vibration, the threaded portion lets go and you get a fuel leak after a few years.
Especially if you unthread them for a new filter or a cleaning.
Discarding the sintered brass filter increases fuel pressure, and slams the needle into the seat when the float tops off, and makes numerous jeepers rebuild their carb after it floods and dies, when they are trying to finesse a tricky trail.
I dont intend to be contrary here, after all "your jeep, is your jeep." (tm)
Its simply a matter of 3 lbs of fuel pressure vs 8 lbs or more with a high flow/low restriction street racer filter.
Couple that with an electric fuel pump that delivers 5 gal per minute and we are talking about 10 psi or more. It blows the gaskets out of the bowl or bleeds off fuel wherever it can if the needle and seat dosent hold.
If you toss it, make sure you plumb in a pressure regulator into the fuel line.
Just my 2 cents.

 

Maxx: Yea, you're just "contrary". Remember, your pressure will be the same if you push it thru a 1 micron filter or an open 3/8" fuel line. It's the "flow" that will be restricted, not the pressure.

What you're saying may be true with aftermarket electirc fuel pumps and such, but not with stock. The stock :v6: fuel pump has 2.5 lbs pressure with the ruturn line open and about 3 lbs with it "pinched" off. In other words, nothing excessive. And you still wil be pushing it thru an inline paper filter, so I see no problem with it. And, the only reason GM put it there was that it was absolutely the easiest and cheapest place to put one during assembly.

 

Guys, this is a good (helpful) discussion and what makes this site so great. A good discussion gets the brain cells working.

I think you're both right. James has experience with this and has had good results but maxx you are right that there is a pressure drop through the brass filter. Pressure drop being relative to area I'm pretty sure there's a lot more pressure drop through the brass filter than through the typical see thru in line filter.

 

A clean bronze filter that is in the carb has very little resistance to it. It should not affect the 2.5-3 lb pressure at all.

 

what JPE just said
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