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Rearview Mirror

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by Peter Dorey, Jul 1, 2021.

  1. Peter Dorey

    Peter Dorey Member

    Hey All!

    My mirror vibrates like crazy. The stud it's mounted on is like a tuning fork and it makes the mirror useless.
    Is this original to my 1956 Jeep? If it is original I will stick with it, but if it's an aftermarket thing than it has got to go!

    Thanks!
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  2. garage gnome

    garage gnome ECJ5 welder

    Doesn’t look like the one on my 71 windshield frame.
     
  3. Fireball

    Fireball Well-Known Member 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    I believe the originals for that vintage looked like the one in this post: Original Rear View Mirror On 58

    There is more info in that thread. The one on your Jeep looks like a cheap universal replacement type thing.

    Funny. When I was looking for pictures of 56's I found this: 1956 CJ5 – The Jeep Farm and realized it's probably your Jeep.
     
  4. Keys5a

    Keys5a Sponsor

    The later versions of the early CJs ('68-'71?) had a cast bracket that was sort of "L" shape and mounted to the corner of the tube part of the frame.
    From around '62-'68 (?), there a was an elongated triangular bracket that mounted on the frame the same as the as pictured in post #1, adjacent to a welded footman loop on tube frame.
    I can't comment on the '50s models CJs, but the frame on the post#1 photos looks to be a reproduction frame from the lack of fittings and tapped holes, and numerous stamped holes in the tubular part of the frame. The reproduction frame may contribute to the vibration, as well as that long mirror stem.
    Lets hear from some owners of '55-'57ish CJs to see what they have as far as originality.
    -Donny
    Edit; Fireball posted while I was typing, and his link shows the 1960's mount I was referring to as an elongated triangle. You can also see the adjacent footman loops on the original frame.
     
  5. Beach66Bum

    Beach66Bum 1966 Tuxedo Park Mark IV 2024 Sponsor

    This would be the correct mirror for our cj5’s (the Tux has the chrome bracket, regular cj5’s the bracket is black) Here’s the correct mounting position, it DOES NOT fasten to the center windshield safety clasp bolts. :)
     
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  6. Hellion

    Hellion Regurgitated

    But does it still vibrate like crazy?

    Probably safe to say the OP is better off with the inline 4 cylinder than the odd-fire Dauntless shaker, in regards to quelling the vibration.

    ADDED: If that's his Jeep in the link, I retract my prior statement. That's a newer Buick V6 3.8L according to the description.
     
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  7. mine (61) looks like the one peter has
     
  8. kenb

    kenb Cleverly disguised as a responsible adult

    I have this mirror in mine. No issues with vibration, even with the 225
     
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  9. Twin2

    Twin2 not him 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    now if originally isn't required
    my buddy did this to mount a newer style mirror on his 55 . has alot of free time
    some welding required on mount . but bolted to frame
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  10. jeepdaddy2000

    jeepdaddy2000 Active Member

  11. Labeeman

    Labeeman Member

    My mirror on my 63 tux needs some work to get it looking good again. The bracket is fine but the chrome part that the mirror sits in is rusty and the mirror needs replacing. Has anyone seen a complete mirror like this on eBay or other sites for sale? If not how about a place that will restore them.
     
  12. Beach66Bum

    Beach66Bum 1966 Tuxedo Park Mark IV 2024 Sponsor

    For mine, it does not shake. I have the 225 Dauntless odd fire. The short bracket and the way it mounts, reduce the vibrations. The back of the bracket rests against the windshield rubber gasket. Also, having a good secure windshield frame to hood cowl makes a difference. I replaced that rubber gasket.
     
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  13. Beach66Bum

    Beach66Bum 1966 Tuxedo Park Mark IV 2024 Sponsor

    There was a Tux chrome one a while back on eBay. Haven’t seen another since.
     
  14. Peter Dorey

    Peter Dorey Member

    Wow, Thanks guys!

    Fireball,
    Yup, thats our Jeep. It has been in the family since my grandfather bought it new in 1956. It was originally a hunting Jeep used to haul deer back from hunting trails in central California (Carmel Valley area).
    It was highly modified and hacked up back in the 80's and then left to rust in a shell of a barn with no roof for about 15 years where it just rusted and got chewed on by rats.

    It's too late to make the Jeep 100% original, so we are going for "OEM +". I don't mind upgrading stuff to make the Jeep safer or more drivable so long as it maintains the character of the Jeep.
    The only mirrors I see for sale are the Rugged Ridge / Omix ones with the triangular mounts. I think I will just make a shorter standoff for this mount unless someone can point me towards a repop OEM mirror like BeachBum66 has.
     
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  15. Peter Dorey

    Peter Dorey Member

    So I tried to remove the mirror this afternoon and the stud that went into the mirror broke off, in the mirror of course.
    So I spent the next couple of hours salvaging an old $5 mirror just because I didn't have a replacement. I had to drill and EZ-Out the broken stud.
    I then turned an adapter stud on my lathe from some 1/2" stainless bar I had laying around. The mirror had a #12-28 thread and the mirror bracket was 5/16-24. The mirror is much more rigid now :)
    It's not original, but it will suffice.
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  16. Howard Eisenhauer

    Howard Eisenhauer Administrator Staff Member

    (y)
     
  17. mickeykelley

    mickeykelley Well-Known Member

    This is the correct reason vibration is minimized, but not totally. At certain speeds/gear, it still vibrates a little, but very usable.
     
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  18. Peter Dorey

    Peter Dorey Member

    I haven't driven the Jeep again yet after the new mount, but for sure the shorter arm on the mount will make a huge difference. The windshield frame is snug and the soft top pulls the windshield down on the (new) cowl seal more effectively than the clamp/latches ever could. I think things will be much better tomorrow :bananatool:
     
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