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Sounds Like Marbles In My Bell Housing When Accelerating

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by Strider380, Jul 22, 2021.

  1. Jul 22, 2021
    Strider380

    Strider380 Can I have a zip tie?

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    I have 225 v6 to ford T18 transmission. I filed, welded and drilled the bellhousing along with some parts from novak. Been a great setup for a decade atleast.

    Im getting a loose marbles/clanking/rattling from my bellhousing...everytime i accelerate at the beginning of each gear.

    Obviously im going to pull it apart regardless, but does anyone have any insight on what it may be? The pilot bearing is new from novak. Throw out bearing is new. Ford clutch disk is new. Jeep pressure plate is new....i assume one of these new parts failed?
     
  2. Jul 22, 2021
    Downs

    Downs Rattlecan All The Things!

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    Check your ignition timing. That's the classic sound of detonation. Especially if it only happens under acceleration/load.
     
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  3. Jul 22, 2021
    Strider380

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    I keep hearing and reading that. I had my buddy put a stethescope on the bell housing when i was driving we were pretty confident about it coming from there. But since i put the HEI dizzy in, to replace the points set, ive had nothing but trouble, for years. (mostly those boomerangs under the cap failing). Ill check the ignition first thank you!
     
  4. Jul 22, 2021
    PeteL

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    Put the points back in and use a timing light....
     
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  5. Jul 22, 2021
    Ol Fogie

    Ol Fogie 74 cj5 304, 1943 mb

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    The torque absorbing springs in the driven plate may be broken or loose, Have had them rattle and clang just before they completely fail.
     
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  6. Jul 22, 2021
    FinoCJ

    FinoCJ 1970 CJ5 Staff Member

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    Clutch disk in backwards?
     
  7. Jul 23, 2021
    Downs

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    Would it release?
     
  8. Jul 23, 2021
    Norcal69

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    Sounds like the release bearing is toast.
     
  9. Jul 23, 2021
    Bill Jones

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    My CJ3A had the same noise after I swapped the T98 in. It would only happen under heavy load. Finally figured out the spring that pulls my starter back was missing and the starter teeth were vibrating out and touching the flywheel.

    Might be a place to check.
     
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  10. Jul 24, 2021
    duffer

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    Would not that make noise anytime the clutch was released? I've never had a release bearing come completely apart and you almost always have plenty of warning they are going to crap. My first thought was something loose in the bellhousing but I can't think of any reason why that would produce the sound only at the beginning of each gear.
     
  11. Jul 24, 2021
    Norcal69

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    Steve’s 71 has the same sound. You only hear it when accelerating from each gear because the engine noise, wind, transfer case drowns it out. His throw out bearing just barley touches the clutch fingers when he is off the pedal. This is on his list of winter fixes.
     
  12. Jul 24, 2021
    Norcal69

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    On my T18 I had a broken bearing retainer snout. It sounded like lots of marbles clanging around. It really wasn’t that noticeable while driving, but stopped it was pretty loud.
     
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