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Carter Yf And Idle Problem

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by bricktop, May 23, 2023.

  1. Aug 18, 2023
    PeteL

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    Applying starter fluid, or raw propane, near a suspected vacuum leak can indicate by altering the engine idle.

    No gasoline should be leaking IMHO.

    "I’ve had my carb “rebuilt,”" That can mean vastly different things to different people. YF's were used on many vehicles, but need certain unique parts for a Jeep application, for instance the float valve and needle, that some kits do not provide, and which are set to different specifications.
     
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  2. Aug 18, 2023
    Howard Eisenhauer

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    As it so happens my carbs is lately suffering the same symptoms as the other posters- doesn't want to idle when warm, hunts etc. I cranked the idle mixture all the way in today & still blowing black smoke out the exhaust :susp:

    I've tried the propane trick around anyplace there could be a vacuum leak & it makes no difference. The only thing I can figure is that the float adjustment is out of whack due to the wrong valve, I've got a spring loaded valve on order right now to replace the non-springy valve that's in the carb now (long story involving a miniature black hole & a rushed schedule :rolleyes:).
     
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  3. Aug 19, 2023
    scoutpilot

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    "Hunting", also known as surging, Can be from an improper float setting. There are currently a number of different needle and seat designs available and each requires a different float setting. It could also be a low-speed jet that is too narrow in diameter, and/or an improper metering rod setting. There should be zero slop in the throttle shaft. If the carburetor hasn't been attended to in decades it is likely that the shaft and the bores in the throttle are worn into an egg shape. A gap as small as .005" is a vacuum leak. This means more air is allowed in which leads to a lean mixture only addressable by increasing the fuel flow via the mixture screw and running with the choke applied. Eventually, this leads to a very high idle. Once the problem has progressed to this point, leak testing will reveal nothing.
     
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  4. Aug 19, 2023
    Howard Eisenhauer

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    Yes I'll be checking those when I have it off & apart- it does run rich all the time.
     
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