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Probably Stupid Welding Question

Discussion in 'Builds and Fabricators Forum' started by wheelie, Jan 17, 2024.

  1. Jan 18, 2024
    Howard Eisenhauer

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    Its probably soldered on, theres a flange around the bottom. Heat it up with a torch & it should drop off.

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  2. Jan 18, 2024
    wheelie

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    Thanks H. Maybe I'll set fire to it next week when it warms up a bit here.
     
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  3. Jan 18, 2024
    SFaulken

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    Well that doesn't make any sense. Do it right now, while it's cold as heck, melt some snow with it.
     
  4. Jan 18, 2024
    Oldpappy

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    I agree with Howard about soldering the joint.

    I have fixed a couple of tanks which leaked around the seams by soldering. I used a MAP torch with high silver content soldering wire and a good flux, clamping Vice Grips each side of the leak to act as heat sinks to keep the heat from opening new leaks.
     
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  5. Jan 18, 2024
    PeteL

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    I find Muriatic Acid (Tinner's Flux) to help enormously in prepping. Deep cleaning is key to successful sealing.
     
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    Oldpappy

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    Yes, good cleaning is critical for a good joint, and Muriatic Acid flux works good. I used to build banjos which had two piece suspended brass tone rings, a hoop sitting on top of a scalloped truss. These pieces were under tension which tended to pull the joint apart, so had to be clamped together. Getting a good joint in both the truss and hoop was critical for getting optimal sound out of the instrument.
     
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  7. Jan 18, 2024
    Howard Eisenhauer

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    I just use regular (lead) plumbing solder & flux on steel, seems to work fine.
     
  8. Jan 19, 2024
    Oldpappy

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    The only reason I used the more expensive silver solder was because that is what I had on hand since I used that for the banjo parts.
     
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  9. Jan 19, 2024
    Howard Eisenhauer

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    Yeah, there was a guy at work building instruments who used silver solder due to string tension, leaded solder just doesn't have the strength for that.

    Plus the silver looks prettier :)
     
  10. Jan 24, 2024
    jeepermc

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    I've welded on several gas tanks over the years. Some have been sitting for years with no gas in them, some were in use just prior. Either way, I flush them out really well with just regular hose water. I'll fill it up and let it run out for an hour. Drained and dry I sniff for fumes. If it's not heavy I do the stand back and stick a torch in the neck or the hole or wherever to make sure it's not gonna blow from fumes. I've never had one explode after flushing. If the torch doesn't ignite it, it should be good to go in my experience. Last one I did was this past fall to get an auxiliary tank back in my bumpside highboy for the Glacier/Yellowstone trip. The old one was too far gone with rust to repair, and a friend had one that had been sitting awhile but was in relatively decent shape, and far better than mine. Shape was about right, but I had to add some brackets, move the filler neck and plug off some holes. Flushed and torched, then cut and welded.
     
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  11. Jan 24, 2024
    Warloch

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    Worked as welder too years ago - Magnum Metals, Craig CO. Seen several tanks 'blow' that had been 'sitting for years' - some diesel and some gas. Scared the hell out of me the first time and never got used to it. Only safe way is to fill with inert gas and make sure it's flowing constantly while welding on said tank. Even then we would get some 'pops and bulges' as the old guys put it.

    As a rule tanks were welded outside the shop. Hose from the generator exhaust was used to pump into the tank after it had been filling for quite some time (had tanks from 15 to 15000 gal we worked on at times). Hard 'nope' for me. I'll weld on and build new tanks - don't trust what I have to create enough inert gas to do any more.
     
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  12. Jan 24, 2024
    PeteL

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    Well, swimming in the ocean has been safe "in my experience." Doesn't mean there aren't any sharks.
     
  13. Jan 24, 2024
    Jw60

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    Sharks don't worry me, they are just hungry fish. It's the mammals that will drag you by the hair and literally play with your dismembered body.
     
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