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1966 CJ-5 w/ Buick Centered Dana 44

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by sweetguardian001, Dec 8, 2009.

  1. sweetguardian001

    sweetguardian001 New Member

    Hello all!

    Im doing the Dana 30 swap this week, My neighbor gave me both axles out of his 1972 CJ-5, so i got the 11x2's and auto-adjusting blah blah blah. I'm asking if i can run the centered 44 with my d18. Now i know this topic has been covered and i searched but no one has said, no i've tried it, it doesnt work. so will it work? we have a driveshaft maker locally but i dont now how you'd put a CV joint onto the d18's output. the only reason i wont go d20 is because of my koenig PTO. i have a 62 willys wagon the has the same setup with the centered rear and it seems like it'd work on the cj too, keeping in mind i know the angles wouldnt be the same.
     
  2. bkd

    bkd Moderator Supreme Staff Member 2022 Sponsor

    everything I've heard /read say no.....too much angle
     
  3. kaiser_willys

    kaiser_willys Well-Known Member

    with the wagon or truck for that matter, the wheelbase takes care of alot. the angle is distributed over a longer distance
     
  4. bkd

    bkd Moderator Supreme Staff Member 2022 Sponsor

    doh....missed that :oops:
     
  5. kaiser_willys

    kaiser_willys Well-Known Member

    nope you didnt, he was refering to his other vehicle, a waggon, the thread clearly says 1966 cj-5 ;) i was just saying that you could get away with it in a longer wheelbase because of driveshaft length
     
  6. sweetguardian001

    sweetguardian001 New Member

    yes i could, but correct me if i;m wrong, standard spicer joints work when the two angles match eachother, so the shaft slows and speeds and the same time. so the two angles coming off of the yokes would be the same, pus, i think, NOT SURE, that the pinion exits on the passenger side of the housing in that 44, so wouldnt it only be a slight angle, basically the same as what's in the shaft now because of the lift/
     
  7. w3srl

    w3srl All-around swell dude Staff Member

    It will work... for a very short time. The problem isn't as much in the driveshaft angle as it is in having compound angles. This sets you up for some really odd oscillations and very short u-joint life.

    IIRC there were a coupla guys on here wo tried it and both found it to be problematic.
     
  8. sweetguardian001

    sweetguardian001 New Member

    Well just got done with the Model 30 Front. Was able to use the Dan 27 NOS Spring Plates along with 77 Cj7 U-Bolts. I converted the Brakes over to the old Style 10" brakes because i JUST did the brakes on the 27. Worked well. I used the Tie Rod from an 81 and the drag link from the 66 w/ the 2 holes. Nice to be able to do a u-turn in 15 Feet!
     
  9. Posimoto

    Posimoto Hopeless JEEP Addict

    Regarding the rear axle. I think that JP Mag did a writeup on using a CV joint on both ends of the rear driveshaft as a solution to the compound angles. Dummy would know. Hopefully he'll see this thread. It might have even been on his flatty. Shouldn't be a problem for a real driveline shop to make one up. I have a CV on the t-case end of my rear driveshaft. It's a D18
     
  10. CJ51973

    CJ51973 Member

    Get both, sell the rear to a 76-81 narrow track AMC 20 guy and buy yourself some axle upgrade stuff. Or keep it for the parts to upgrade yours.
     
  11. NoFlyZone

    NoFlyZone Member

    The wheel base is too short on a a CJ do the offset/ centered thing. Longer(like 100"+) wheel base it works fine.