signing over a title

what Billy said... X2

 

Agree with Billy. If it's a state that needs notarization and it's already been notarized, just have Cari sign it for you or sign it in handwriting that doesn't look like yours.

Be sure you go to a different clerk at DMV too so she doesn't remember you.

 

God forbid this fromthis happening to me again but I agree with billy

 

strongly disagree with the advice that's been given
asking for trouble here
signing and dating a document for a long deceased person?
there are other remedies (legal)
there are heirs to estates
granted, the paperwork would be endless, especially here in CA, and with our DMV
YMMV

 

Sorry Jim I have to disagree, Billy has the best idea here , California is a whole other ball park when playing games like this and in most legal matters.
Have a Woman practice the name a few times (so it seems natural) and then sign the title in the same color of ink. If the lady is long dead and gone there is no one to press charges including the state, they can't prove otherwise and its not in there best interest. Wait 6 months and go back to a different officer at the DMV.

 

This is exactly what I had to do with mine. Had the original title from PA signed to 1st owners son then sold and never put on the road. All legit but a paper nightmare. Maryland loves their paperwork too.

 

In California if both names are on title it depends on how it's written.

Example:

1 Mr. "and" Mrs. John Q Public requires both signatures
2.Mr. "or" Mrs. John Q Public Either one can sign

Does it say "and" or "or" ?

 

this title stuff is giving me a headache right now too. I wish my remedy was as easy as signing a dead persons name. The '65 I bought on Ebay was provided with a bill of sale. The guy I bought it from got it from the original owner ~8 years ago. The original owner actually died the week he got and the widow did not know where the title was and moved away to California with her family.

So, I am in the process of doing a Colorado records search, only to prove the owner of title is dead. Then I have to have a certified inspection, appraisal, bonded, all to register it as "salvage" because it is not "roadworthy" at the moment.

I would not think about all of this hassle if the thing was not in such amazing shape. I figure it deserves the effort having made it 40 years looking so good.

 

man you guys got it rough... all i needed was a bill of sale. ten minutes later it was officially registered to me from the state of ga. no questions asked. alothough, if i had it stolen from me i would rather have the more diffiicult process. it just seems too easy.

 

Poor Brian, only trying to be helpful and look at what he started.

I won't confess some things I've done with titles in the past, but from another angle the will was mentioned.

Earlier this year a friend of ours knew of a Corvair for sale. He was offered it, but it wasn't "his year" so he passed the info to us. We went to talk to the seller.

It was a house where the man had died many months before, but his house was still full of belongings and this Corvair sat on blocks in his driveway. There was a crew there hired by the bank that foreclosed on the home due to non-payment of the mortgage due to the fact that the guy was dead.

His family had swooped in on the house and moved in after he died and continued to collect (steal) his ss checks. They didn't pay his mortgage, taxes, or utilities. They stayed as long as they could live for free until the utilities were cut and then took anything they wanted of value and ran. They really left the place a dump. Even food spoiled in fridge for a couple of months. Phew!

The contractor said the bank wanted everything removed from the property and the house cleaned up so it could be sold. Being there was no title for the car and titles are easy to get in VA, the brake drums were all locked up, we offered $150 and they took it in cash. They gave us a receipt and I immediately began getting his death certificate off the internet and researching the car to get it titled.

Meanwhile, Peter freed the drums, put wheels and tires on it, had it ready to go. We came back with the dolly to pick it up and found that a low life had seen that it was all ready to go stopped and claimed he bought it from the dead man. We knew the guy as he had stopped by our house once trying to sell us a Corvair with no title. Now we had caught on to the fact that this guy will buy anything, even if not legal, and sell it so we don't want anything to do with him.

We ended up calling the police who came and told us that actually it was against the law for anyone, bank included, to sell the car because it has to go through probate and the family has to be found first. It is not part of personal property like all the guys tools, furniture and such. He said that was for our safety as well as we wouldn't want to go to all the trouble of restoring it only to have the family show up later to say "that's ours".

Moral of the story: If you KNOW without a doubt that there are no questions about the ownership and that what a seller has told you is true, then I don't see a problem doing whatever you need to do to get the title done. If there is any question, then either stay away or find some other way to legalize the vehicles such as buying an Alabama title or something.

Beth