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different jeep or new engine/tranny?

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by unclebill, May 23, 2010.

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  1. cookieman

    cookieman Member

    In California no one MERGE they turn on their blinker and get on freeway doing 45..55..mph pick their noses ,dial the cell phone,then they punch it and cut across three lanes and are gone. Here in Calif people think if they turn the blinkers,you HAVE to let them in the lane
     
    cookieman, Jun 2, 2010
    #101
  2. unclebill

    unclebill Banned

    update
    i called advance adapters for the heck of it.
    and talked to a guy for quite a while.
    if i had to buy a bellhousing/clutch kit and disc etc.(it ended up being 7 different items)
    $1452.50
    that is for a buick 231 mated to my t-98/d18

    so the DO have them on the website.
    you just have to know where to look.
     
    unclebill, Dec 17, 2010
    #102
  3. Warloch

    Warloch Did you say Flattie??? Staff Member

    Hmm - I didn't find it all on there, but then they know thier parts better than I do... However, that price makes me reach around my backside and say 'owwie, owwie - a little vasaline please next time'...

    Re-reading - if that clutch and that maybe not as bad... Will have to compare that with what I am figureing for a T-18. Don't think it will be that much all said and done though.
     
    Last edited: Dec 17, 2010
    Warloch, Dec 17, 2010
    #103
  4. 54cj3b

    54cj3b Member

    4.3 + bell housing Pick -N-pull $850 AA or novak adapter for trans prob $200.
     
    54cj3b, Dec 17, 2010
    #104
  5. unclebill

    unclebill Banned

    (P/N 712517) Chevy V8 to Jeep T98 or T18 Transmission Adapter Kit

    Adapter type (plate/full bellhousing):
    • Plate
    Engine:
    • CHEVY SMALL BLOCK V8 & 4.3L V6 (1986 and up)
    • CHEVY SMALL BLOCK V8 & 4.3L V6 (pre 1986)
    Transmission:
    • Jeep T-18 (10.250" input shaft stick out length)
    • Jeep T-98 (10.250" input stick out length)
     
    unclebill, Dec 17, 2010
    #105
  6. unclebill

    unclebill Banned

    i need the above.
    and a bellhousing? (i think)
    that guy talks fast and i couldnt keep up with all the numbers
     
    unclebill, Dec 17, 2010
    #106
  7. Warloch

    Warloch Did you say Flattie??? Staff Member

    Only problem is it's not a Chevy motor. The BOP Bell is different than a Chevy. I have found a Bell replacement setup for a Ford T18, assuming the stickout for the input shaft on the T98 is the same as the T18, I know the Jeep T18 is MUCH longer than the Ford so have to assume the same for the T98. However, that could be 'fixed' with a spacer machined out (simple main hole and 2 sets of bolt holes to the Bell and Tranny) - The part I have not been able to 'adapt' is the main shaft (input) to the Tranny. I know the one I have here has a custom clutch in it (Greg got it from a place back east), and alot of folks have told me either the T18 or NP435 is a easier/cheaper swap.

    Now - I have already 'appropriated' a Ford T18 and an NP435 to use as possible swap candidates depending on the match to your T98 - click links to see specs on each and you will see the T18 is .08 higher in first and the NP435 is .28 lower in first with some other 'better' gear distribution. I did some measuring and the NP435 is very close in size to my SM465 once installed.

    We will get all the facts and figures together and see where we go. I am still of the opinion that selling the T98 to finance the other is a good way to go for you - and you still get to keep the deep 4 speed gears.

    I plan on talking to Herm to verify what I have found out... Oh - and I basically 'stole' the T18 and NP435s - they only need shifter canes :).
     
    Last edited: Dec 17, 2010
    Warloch, Dec 17, 2010
    #107
  8. unclebill

    unclebill Banned

    you are the brains of this outfit.
    that advance guy explained it all to me but it was over my head and after the 4th or 5th string of numbers and letters i gave up.:D
    a stenographer
    i am not.....
     
    unclebill, Dec 17, 2010
    #108
  9. chuck123wapati

    chuck123wapati Member

    I say #1
     
    chuck123wapati, Dec 17, 2010
    #109
  10. duffer

    duffer Rodent Power

    Just put a sbc in and you have all the correct numbers-just about any of the sbc's will have no merging problems:D
     
    duffer, Dec 17, 2010
    #110
  11. kaiser_willys

    kaiser_willys Well-Known Member

    houston we have a problem: it seems we have a ECJ5 about to intercept you:D
     
    kaiser_willys, Dec 17, 2010
    #111
  12. colojeepguy

    colojeepguy Colorado Springs

    I've got a 225 bellhousing (the type with the GM trans pattern on the back) sitting in my backyard. If you need it I could probably be persuaded to part with it in exchange for a couple on Mexican wrestler masks:D
     
    colojeepguy, Dec 18, 2010
    #112
  13. oldtime

    oldtime oldtime

    Just read this today. Apparently Bill is attached to his to his SLUG...
    I hope this comment helps.

    You're going to run into 2 main hurdles if attempting to mate the T98 to a Jeep Dauntless bellhousing.
    Maindrive length plus fore/aft engine positioning.

    A T98A rear engine support crossmember is bolted exactly 5-1/2" back from the standard crossmember location.
    This will put the engine into the firewall unless a 2-5/8 thick bellhousing adapter is used
    behind the typical (6-3/8" deep) D-225 bellhousing.

    IMHO the best solution is to lengthen the rear driveshaft by 2-1/2".
    Then move the rear engine support foreward exactly half way back to the standard location which reduces propeller shaft stress.
    This move re-uses two of the standard existing crossmember mounting holes.
    Then you will have to bolt the T98 direct onto the D 225 bellhousing.
    This is accomplished in part by changing the maindrive gear to 1-1/8" diameter and machining it to a custom lenght.
    With this setup you can use original Jeep Dauntles 225 engine mounting brackets.
    The AA 4.868 index bellhousing is ideal because it is 6-5/8" deep.
    This positions stock D-225 engine brackets exactly in the standard location.
     
    oldtime, Dec 18, 2010
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  14. givemethewillys

    givemethewillys Been here since sparky ran it. 2022 Sponsor

    Any updates on this Bill? Or did you give up on the 225?
     
    givemethewillys, Apr 9, 2011
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  15. Warloch

    Warloch Did you say Flattie??? Staff Member

    Bill's finances put it on hold. Not sure what the plans are, or when we will be able to do it.
     
    Warloch, Apr 9, 2011
    #115
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