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Dutch's (Unfinished) Cage Pics

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by Boyink, Jan 1, 2005.

  1. Boyink

    Boyink Super Moderator Staff Member

    Just recieved these...

    http://www.jcroffroad.com/misc/boyinkcage/

    Overall it looks to be coming together pretty well.

    My biggest concern is how the 'cage ends short of the body in the rear. It's really just a visual thing - there's no saftey concern as the backseat should be well within the cage. This design also allows the softtop bows to fold down w/o removing them, and gives the softop a place to lay when folded down.

    I'm just not sure I care for the way it leaves some of the body sticking out. Brian - The fabricator - thought extending it to the rear of the body looked goofy as it made the 'cage look so long...but I'm not sure. One impression I have is that the cage doesn't look made to fit this way.

    What do you guys think?
     
  2. sparky

    sparky Sandgroper Staff Member Founder

    Looks fine to me.
     
  3. panzer

    panzer Super Mod Staff Member

    Looks good Mike. As long as the cage is over the rears seats I
    think it's good to go.
     
  4. speedbuggy

    speedbuggy Looking for a Jeep now

    I like it Mike! I think you will be happy with it for the fact that the bows will fold. I don't have that luxury with mine...
     
  5. Mcruff

    Mcruff Earlycj5 Machinist

    Mike, I think it looks fine. I see what you mean about not going any farther back , but without being there and seeing it , I'm not sure the top bows would have folded down if the cage came any farther back. I think it will grow on you.
     
  6. Ducks-Bass-n-Jeeps

    Ducks-Bass-n-Jeeps A Parade of One

    I like what you have, but i think I would at least have a look at how cage would look extended to the back of the jeep.
     
  7. mb82

    mb82 I feel great!

    looks good mike.
     
  8. Hansh

    Hansh Going Mobile

    I think it looks good, nice job. Are you going to add anything for support behind the seatbacks and a place to attach your belts?
     
  9. Boyink

    Boyink Super Moderator Staff Member

    I think it is growing on me...what I do like about it is it's pretty symmetrical looking from the side. I note that the rear rollbars in TJ's don't go all the way back either. I really gotta see it in person to really decide, I guess.

    Hansh - I'm not the one doing the fab work...it's way past my skills..;)

    On the "support bar", if you mean a side to side bar at shoulder height behind the front seats for the shoulder part of 4-point harnesses to attach to, no way. I have kids, and such a bar would be a pain in the rear for getting them in and out of the back seat. I had 4 pt harnesses in my 5 and never used them anyway -- too much of a hassle to get in and out of.

    What I'm doing insted is having TJ seat belts put in all 'round, so all seats will have the lap/shoulder belts. Also all the seat mounts will be incorporated into the cage - that's the part that's mostly unfinished.
     
  10. Glenn

    Glenn Kinda grumpy old man Staff Member

    I like it as is too. I don't think farther back would look as good.
     
  11. sparky

    sparky Sandgroper Staff Member Founder

    No wonder I liked it. The TJ does that too. R)

    I forgot. Duh, the top fits in the tub behind the sport bar when it's down.
     
  12. 66cj5

    66cj5 Jeep with no name

    looks good to me. no pics w/bows up?
     
  13. duke54

    duke54 Member

    It's gonna look good when done with a little paint :p
     
  14. Patrick

    Patrick Super Moderator Staff Member

    I like it. For me, I like to be able to fold the soft top bows down. I do it quite often in warm seasons.
     
  15. kcjeep

    kcjeep Member

    I think it looks great!!
     
  16. ljspop

    ljspop Lurking Bronco Dude

    I think it looks great. I agree with the fabricator that it might look wrong strectched all the way back.
     
  17. jpflat2a

    jpflat2a what's that noise?

    I like the looks of it.
    my dad's demo 69-6 had a cage in it also; I have no no pics of that Jeep.
    is there a reason (there must be) why the rear bars are being kicked in to the somewhat middle of the wheelwells and not following the body lines? soft top taper in the rear?
    are you going to use full fenderwell plates?
     
  18. Boyink

    Boyink Super Moderator Staff Member

    The rear bars kick in, I think, to keep them parallel to the body sides and to keep the bars as high as possible.

    If you look at where they attach to the center hoop, it's inboard a bit because in order to attach at a higher point they have to grab at the center hoop's inward bend. If the rear of the sidebars didn't match that they would not be parallel - they'd get wider apart towards the back of the Jeep.

    I haven't seen it with the top on, I'm hoping this approach keeps the rollcage from blocking the windows.

    I'm going to see if I can get him to use bigger plates, but not sure if it's worth going full fenderwell since it's just the one bar mounting there.
     
  19. Boyink

    Boyink Super Moderator Staff Member

    Just for comparison's sake, this pic (which I hadn't seen before) is pretty darn close to what I was thinking originally:

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    Compared to:
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  20. jpflat2a

    jpflat2a what's that noise?

    okay I understand now
    and your right on the fenderwell plates
    if only one bar there probably won't matter
    I like the lines/bends of your cage
    your fab guy is doing a great job IMO
    has it been welded at this point or do you have to give the aok?