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Dang it, lost the Tech sheet...

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by grannyscj, May 4, 2013.

  1. May 6, 2013
    Patrick

    Patrick Super Moderator Staff Member

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    According to my spec sheet, 1 5/32" is for plastic float, measured to the top of float at toe.
     
  2. May 6, 2013
    Patrick

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    And IIRC, I always set my brass floats closer to 7/16"
     
  3. May 6, 2013
    Patrick

    Patrick Super Moderator Staff Member

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    Here's the instruction for the 1 5/32" float level
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  4. May 6, 2013
    Patrick

    Patrick Super Moderator Staff Member

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    I'm not saying you're wrong Nick, or trying to argue, just stating what my Hygrade spec sheet says.
     
  5. May 6, 2013
    nickmil

    nickmil In mothballs.

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    My FSM says 1 3/32" float level adjustment and 1 7/8" float drop without emission controls. 1 5/32" float level and 1 7/8" float drop with emissions. Does not specify plastic or brass float.
    Meh. Just posting what is in the spec sheet that I have. Can take a pic if you like.
    Not surprising there are variations in aftermarket rebuild kits.


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  6. May 6, 2013
    Patrick

    Patrick Super Moderator Staff Member

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    Just wondering- there's a huge difference between 1 3/32" and 1/2"
     
  7. May 6, 2013
    grannyscj

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    Once this gets hashed out, let's sticky this. I think it would provide good reference.
     
  8. May 6, 2013
    Patrick

    Patrick Super Moderator Staff Member

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    Well, FWIW, I always used the spec sheet I posted with brass floats with great success. I built/ rebuilt probably 6 or 8 2G's in the 15 years I owned them.
     
  9. May 6, 2013
    nickmil

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    When I get home from work tomorrow I'll take a pic of the spec sheet and FSM info I have. Too exhausted tonight.
    Something is not matching on our info though.
    I used those specs to rebuild my Daughter's 2g and it runs excellent with no issues.
    I've rebuilt many of them before but been too many years to remember what the specs were. I know I went off the rebuild kit or FSM info though. If used heavy off road I typically dropped the float level about1/32" to 2/32" for less flooding issues at severe angles and had good luck with that. If strictly street driven I had always set them to the recommended specs with a stock engine.


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  10. May 7, 2013
    Patrick

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    Yep, I always ran the float level ~1/16" down from spec.
    I used several plastic floats, and later on I started using brass floats, and used the two different specs listed on this spec sheet, respectively. I don't recall if I ever looked in the FSM for the specs.
     
  11. May 7, 2013
    Patrick

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    In fact, I still have a brand new brass float in my box at work..;)
     
  12. May 7, 2013
    Patrick

    Patrick Super Moderator Staff Member

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    OK, FSM in hand. Mine shows the specs Nick posted, and the pictures show the plastic float. The text doesn't mention brass float.
     
  13. May 7, 2013
    oldtime

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    There are a total of 3 CJ publications that provide Rochester carburetor specifications.
    I have those publications and two Rochester 2 GC's in original condition.
    Note: the brass type float preceded the plastic floats.

    I fully expect that the Rochester #7026082 should have a brass type float.
    My Rochester # 7026086 has a brass type float.
    My Rochester # 7026089 has a plastic type float.
    I fully expect that the Rochester #7027082 should have a plastic type float.

    The 1965 SM 1002 R5 SUPPLIMENT (72 pages) was issued in 1965 for Dauntless CJ's.
    This manual provides the correct specififications and pictures the early brass float.
    To adjust float level the Rochester air horn is inverted with the fuel well gasket in position.
    .594 (19/32) float level is measured to the sharp edge at center line of the float.
    The float drop is measured with air horn in upright position.
    1-29/32" float drop measured from air horn to bottom of the brass float.

    Both the SM 1038 and the SM 1046 provide the same information.
    This information is for the plastic type floats.
    1-3/32 float level with 1-7/8" float drop without emissions.
    1-5/32 float level with 1-7/8" float drop with emissions.
     
  14. May 7, 2013
    Patrick

    Patrick Super Moderator Staff Member

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    All of which agrees with the spec sheet I have here (.594", close enough to 1/2")


    My FSM was printed in 8/71, which might explain why it doesn't show the brass float. Actually, I got this particular manual from you Ken..;)
     
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  15. May 8, 2013
    oldtime

    oldtime oldtime

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    Yes Patrick, I vaugly recall that exchange.
    The SM 1046 was the final Universal Service Manual publication covering the CJ-3B and early CJ-5, CJ-6 models.
    The SM 1046 was initially published in 1970 but only a very few copies were ever produced.
    It was published in mass quantity in 8/71 and it was reproduced in 73, 75, and 77.
    The 1975 and 1977 dated publications of the SM 1046 have cheaper quality paper and pics.
    Overall the 8/71 publication of the SM 1046 is the best manual covering the Dauntless era CJ's.
    But as you can see other older Willys, Motors and Kaiser publications retain some merit.
     
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  16. May 9, 2013
    nickmil

    nickmil In mothballs.

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    FWIW I finally got pics of my Echlin instruction sheet and from my FSM. I'd have to check and see what version it is.

    FSM
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    And two pics of my Echlin Instruction Sheet.

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