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Discussion in 'Early Jeep Restoration and Research' started by Badcop, May 6, 2005.

  1. May 6, 2005
    Badcop

    Badcop I Just look New.....

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    I have a 63' fife that will be one way or another restored to close original. i also have a 65' five tub thats going to be butcherd for panels. The 63 is complete, minus the dash guages, wiring, tailgate, seats, the F134 is complete and appears to be in running order. The clutch still holds well, and does the twin stick Tcase. Should I start with the mechanics or the body?

    What web sites have a good selection on body panels, restoration parts, etc?

    Which places can I start looking for engine rebuild kits, tcase, trannie peices?

    I think the axles will be the only thing I wont have to touch, lol.
     
  2. May 6, 2005
    60CJ5

    60CJ5 Member

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    It all depends on how far you want to go. If you are thinking about taking the body off the frame to do your work (easy to do) then I would do mechanics then the body. It is a lot easier to work on the frame standing up. If you want to be able to drive it while you work on it then just list the HiPro item in oder and attack. (a nice body and paint might be #1 on your list) keep in mind there is a GOOD chance that you will scratch a new paint job when working on the mechanicals. (The chance is directly related to the amount of $$ you have in the paint Job)

    When I do my 2nd it will be another off-frame. there is normally a lot of rust on the bottom of these old guys and you may not be able to see it with the body on.

    Just my $.02

    There is a lot of parts suppliers out there. Check the web and the buyer comments forum on this site.
     
  3. May 6, 2005
    Badcop

    Badcop I Just look New.....

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    Appreciate the words of wisdom, I have done restos before just never a CJ, It is completely taken off frame right now. Both Tubs are in my garage, fenders, hood, etc. the grill is the only thing still attahced, since some yahoo reinforced a tow bar preventing any luck from getting the bottom bolt out.
     
  4. May 6, 2005
    MOP

    MOP Active Member

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    Badcop

    Badcop I Just look New.....

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    Now thats what I needed... Thanks a mil, I owe yah a cold one :)
     
  6. May 6, 2005
    blevisay

    blevisay Oh Noooooooooooooooo! Staff Member

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    sparky

    sparky Sandgroper Staff Member Founder

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    Carl knows his stuff.
     
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    blevisay

    blevisay Oh Noooooooooooooooo! Staff Member

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    Like I said ...well worth the $$$$$!!!!!!!!! :D :hurrican:
     
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    blevisay

    blevisay Oh Noooooooooooooooo! Staff Member

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    I forgot to say Welcome from south Florida
     
  10. May 7, 2005
    MOP

    MOP Active Member

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    no problem. If those sites don't take care of ya, post in the WTB section here or Willystech. Also ebay if you have time and patience to watch for something. Your local auto parts store may have some stuff too.
     
  11. May 7, 2005
    Mudweiserjeep

    Mudweiserjeep JEEP: Bouncy and Fun

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    Good luck on the project.....Welcome from Ohio!
     
  12. May 7, 2005
    Glenn

    Glenn Kinda grumpy old man Staff Member

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    I've bought a lot of stuff from Walck's, and it's nice to order from someone that know's their stuff.
     
  13. May 7, 2005
    timgr

    timgr We stand on the shoulders of giants. 2022 Sponsor

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    Re the local auto parts store, most of the stuff like engine parts, axle seals, bearings, etc. will be available from a regular parts store. If you can find a parts store that will work with you and has knowledgeable employees, their parts will be less expensive generally than Walcks or the rest of the boutique Jeep parts sources. I find that many, many parts for F4 and V6 Jeeps are listed at www.napaonline.com ... that's a good place for a price/availabilty check before you try your local olde-tyme parts store or one of the boutique* places. For an F4, last year of production was '71, so check there too if your part isn't listed under '63.

    hth & good luck


    * nothing bad meant by "boutique" - just a name I picked.
     
  14. May 7, 2005
    JZ

    JZ Member

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    Take lots of pictures before you tear it down into uncountable piles of rusty bits. I have gone back to my pictures numerous times to remember not just where a part goes, but what the heck it was supposed to be. (And, get a service manual and read it through. It is surprisingly readable.)

    http://www.all-sales-final.com/~dad
     
  15. May 7, 2005
    Badcop

    Badcop I Just look New.....

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    I think I just read your entire build, what did you use to strip all the paint and rust with?

    Good job btw.
     
  16. May 8, 2005
    JZ

    JZ Member

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    Paint removal was done by a professional "un-paint" shop in Atlanta. Alhough they did my job, they were moving and I have not found where they have moved to. B^(
     
  17. May 8, 2005
    Badcop

    Badcop I Just look New.....

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    Well theres no way in heck Im driving or shipping my whole body to Atlanta to have the paint stripped, Ill need to find a way to do it myself, whether it be chemical or sand blasting.
     
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    timgr

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    Check your local phone book for "media blasting". For paint removal, they usually use soda or walnut shells now, maybe hematite for rust removal AFAIK. Sand is seldom used because of concerns about silicosis.
     
  19. May 8, 2005
    jhuey

    jhuey Michigan Jeeper!

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    I used silica free blast grit, and did the whole thing myself, I was lucky a friend had a commercial blaster with air compressor, did it in a gravel parking lot where I work. Turned out really nice, when I primed it the metal texture was rough and the paint stuck really well. I started with the mechanicals first now I'm doing the body. I have mechanically cleaned a body, started with stripper, than moved to wire wheels, then chased rust by hand. It was a lot of work but doable when you are with out resources or money.
    Joe
     
  20. May 9, 2005
    TigerShark

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    I used a brass wire wheel on my angle grinder. They're about 5 bucks apiece. They work pretty quickly, and the brass doesn't damage the underlying metal. I think I've used a total of 4 of them to strip the whole Jeep. They do make LOTS of dust though, so you might want to strip it in the driveway and wear a particle mask.

    Jim
     
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