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Clutch Cross Shaft

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by RedWing, Nov 20, 2005.

  1. Nov 20, 2005
    RedWing

    RedWing Member

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    Well I finally got a chance to play with the new Jeep today. While underneath, I noticed that my jeep has a cable attached to the clutch pedal and from there it goes directly to the clutch fork.

    Should a 1971 CJ5 with the Dauntless engine have this set up or should it have the cross shaft?

    This arrangement works fine, but I am planning to make this jeep as original as possible. Is this something I should be concerned with?
     
  2. Nov 20, 2005
    tinker

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    my 69 had the same thing but the cable rubs on the frame and wears out i switched to a home made version with a short cable on one side and a rod with spherical rod ends on the other side of the cross shaft.the rod section can be seen on the tech page here.
     
  3. Nov 20, 2005
    gte636p

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    my 71 has the cross shaft, but if what you've got works then go with it.

    i'm having trouble picturing what you're talking about anyway. if it has the pedals going through the floor then a straight shot to the clutch fork wouldn't work... unless it's looped back around somewhere like the AA chain linkage kit, or someone has swapped out hanging pedals?? i just can't picture it right now.
     
  4. Nov 20, 2005
    RedWing

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    The cable does loops toward the back then forward again to the clutch fork. It basically replaces the shaft that I think extends toward the passenger side with rods that are moved by the clutch pedal. In the book it looks like the clutch cable attaches to this tube. I'll try and send a picture.
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  5. Nov 21, 2005
    lynn

    lynn Time machine / Early CJ5 HR Rep Staff Member

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    My '71 had the long (~60") cable. a U-shaped piece bolted to the pedal. From there it went toward the back then looped forward to the fork, with the outer sleeve stopped by a bracket bolted to the tcase. It was a factory set up. It operated very smoothly, but the cable was undersized for the task and would break strands/fray at the U connection. I replaced it with an AA chain unit.
     
  6. Nov 21, 2005
    RedWing

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    That sounds like a similar set up. I didnt know if it was factory or not. My cable might be longer, as it goes toward the rear a ways before it makes it way up to the fork. It does seem to work well so maybe if its not broke I won't fix it.
     
  7. Nov 21, 2005
    linckeil

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    the cable clutch linkage was factory in 1971. 55-70 cj5's used the rod clutch linkage.
     
  8. Nov 21, 2005
    gte636p

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    huh... i just learned my new thing for the day..
     
  9. Nov 21, 2005
    linckeil

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    AA lists their chain linkage fitting up to '70 models. that is because when the cable linkage was used in '71, the "ear" on the cross shaft that was used with the rod clutch linkage was no longer needed, so it was deleted for the '71 model. but the AA chain linkage needs that "ear", so if you want the AA chain linkage on a '71 model, you need to get a pedal cross shaft with the "ear" from a pre '71 model.

    but i wouldn't be surprised if some early '71 models came with the rod linkage until the factory ran out of that setup.
     
  10. Nov 21, 2005
    lynn

    lynn Time machine / Early CJ5 HR Rep Staff Member

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    Yep, what Linc said. I replaced the pedal shaft with a new one (from Walcks, Krage, etc) that has the "ear" to connect one end of the AA chain.
     
  11. Nov 21, 2005
    m38willys

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    Huh.... my '71 had a hydraulic setup for the clutch. Was nothing more than a brake MC mounted outboard the frame. I had no problems getting parts for it as a clutch MC....
     
  12. Nov 21, 2005
    timgr

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    Not that you guys are interested in the intermediates, but the cable linkage was carried over into 1972 for use with the suspended pedals. It was very troublesome, and Jeep started using the bellcrank in '73. There was a service kit for those Jeeps that replaced the cable with solid linkage and a bell crank.
     
  13. Nov 21, 2005
    RedWing

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    Is that kit still available, or can you order the cross shaft with ear and convert. Any suggestions? It seems to be working fine.
     
  14. Nov 21, 2005
    timgr

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    Yeah, all the parts are available in a kit IIRC. Not from Jeep though, aftermarket. Not sure if it will help if you have the pedals through the floor; it's meant to work with pedals that are suspended from the firewall.
     
  15. Nov 21, 2005
    Project71-5

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    After breaking 2 brand new cables, I went to a chain linkage on my 71. I made the chain linkage myself and ordered the cross shaft w/ ear from Krage Motorsports. I have no complaints about this setup and it wasn't hard at all to put together. :)
     
  16. Nov 22, 2005
    RedWing

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    Thanks, I think I'll give it a shot.
     
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