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Curiosity About A Crazy Confusing Clutch Comparison Conundrum

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by Howard Eisenhauer, Jan 13, 2006.

  1. Jan 13, 2006
    Howard Eisenhauer

    Howard Eisenhauer Administrator Staff Member

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    O.K., Here's this week's Mystery Question-

    Heres the clutches out of Tonka (right) & Maggie (the other right-, no- I mean Left!)

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    And the Artsy shot-


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    Tonka is nominally a '55, Maggie (w)a(s) a '59.

    The FSM (the mid 60's reprint one) shows Tonk's clutch setup but not Maggies.

    I was under the impression Tonka had an Auburn clutch but that's what Maggie's sez on it as well/

    Anyone with any knowledge about when/why/if the change took place, or, is this a case of more transplanted components as appears to be the case with last week's post re. "Great Baffling Bellhousings" ?

    Thanks,

    H.

    p.s.-For those of you having trouble identifying the engine blocks it's because they arn't V6s, they're "Willys" engines :). h.
     
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  2. Jan 14, 2006
    kamel

    kamel Senior Curmudgeon

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    You are in good company with those F heads -- the only other two manufacturers of F heads that I know of were Rolls Royce and Harley-Davidson.
     
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    timgr

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    Looks to me like the clutch covers are different diameters, but the flywheels are the same. A few months back we had a thread about F4 flywheels that were drilled for two different diameter covers/disks. I'd guess that's what you are seeing - that the smaller diameter cover (Tonka?) is the more modern stamped steel design, and the larger is an older, competitive design. I had thought that modern clutch covers came in two types: Borg-and-Beck, with discrete springs, and diaphragm, with a single big spring. All the B&B style that I've seen as replacements have had stamped frames - I'd presume that's the modern construction method.
     
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  4. Jan 14, 2006
    Badcop

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    My guess will be different trannies:

    Heres my 63' F Head with a T98.
    And the other is 65' F Head with a T90.
     
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  5. Jan 14, 2006
    Howard Eisenhauer

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    Tim, is this the post you were talking about?

    http://www.earlycj5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4763&highlight=flywheel

    H.
     
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  6. Jan 14, 2006
    Howard Eisenhauer

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    Nope, both were hooked to a T90. Your second picture sorta looks like the unit shown in the FSM for the V6.
    H.
     
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    kamel

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    SOME f-134 flywheels were drilled for both clutches, and some weren't.

    My experience has been that the older the flywheel, the more likely it is only drilled for the smaller clutch.
     
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    jd7

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    I've had them that were drilled for both.
     
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  10. Jan 15, 2006
    Howard Eisenhauer

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    Thanks for the replies everbody, It All Makes Sence Now :).

    H.
     
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