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Early CJ Myths > Need Your Input

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by Boyink, Sep 7, 2005.

  1. Sep 7, 2005
    Southtowns27

    Southtowns27 Custom Title

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    You need to do a SOA lift to be able to off road
     
  2. Sep 7, 2005
    sparky

    sparky Sandgroper Staff Member Founder

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    You need wide tires if you're going to take the Jeep off-road.
     
  3. Sep 7, 2005
    Steamer

    Steamer Thick and gritty!

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    Generally, all the mods you can buy, create, or dream of will replace drivng technique, and make you a superior wheeler. What a crock.
     
  4. Sep 7, 2005
    Patrick

    Patrick Super Moderator Staff Member

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    The Dana 27 is too weak.....
    10" brakes are not sufficient...
     
  5. Sep 7, 2005
    wild1_Robertson

    wild1_Robertson New Member

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    Almost rolled over last week when a tire blew.. seams very unstable over 50 but I have 235 85 16 and a spring lift
     
  6. Sep 7, 2005
    wild1_Robertson

    wild1_Robertson New Member

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    I have driven mine less then 1,000 miles the t18 needed a full rebuild I even had to replace the case. Dana20 rebuiilt, dana 44 failed replaced. Motor started to smoke and knock replaced bearings will rering and rebuild heads the carb snapped in half.. The like new tire blew. The overdrive is toast had to remove it. All the myths ring true.

    root cause other than the last owner i think is the 235 85 16

    Water pump also went out.
     
  7. Sep 7, 2005
    DanStew

    DanStew Preowned Merkin salesman Staff Member

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    A big myth is saying that catalogs still support the CJ5 ;)
     
  8. Sep 7, 2005
    Howard Eisenhauer

    Howard Eisenhauer Administrator Staff Member

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    Here's something I think is a good example of myth busting, a blurb from Dr. Vern on the Willys Tech list talking about the myth that Dana 41 axles are weak. It's one thing to say they arn't, he actually backs up his claim otherwise with some detective work & examples.

    http://www.vernco.com/rearaxle/index.htm

    He's got me convinced & I wouldn't know a model 41 if you clunked over the head with one :).

    H.
     
  9. Sep 7, 2005
    Boyink

    Boyink Super Moderator Staff Member

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    :? :?
     
  10. Sep 8, 2005
    lafester

    lafester Sponsor

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    not really sure what to add...

    all mechanical parts are still available new or reman.
    you can upgrade to stronger parts like the 30 spline 1 piece axles, d30 swap, numorous spring options, swap in a sm420/465/t18 pretty easily without major reconstruction. obviously the v6 is a good offroad motor that can be modified in small easy ways to make it a little more stable like hei. most jeepers don't even know about the wonderful warn overdrive only available with the d18. having an offset rear diff is also a great advantage to the early cjs when avoiding big rocks.

    for those wanting to really rock crawl i wouldn't suggest a cj5 old or late model. the angles and twistability needed for that are just not found in such a short wheelbase vehicle. for everyday light to difficult trail use a cj5 is just fine, in fact the extra narrow track of our early jeeps can really be a great advantage when navigating the rocks, trees and ruts on the trail. moderate to difficult trail riders really should look into some of the modifications listed above or you could be walking home. i know that in stock form the jeep can do some amazing things, but after 35-50 years some of these things are going to fail and you might as well at least upgrade the easy stuff if you are going to trust your jeep with your life.

    chris
     
  11. Sep 8, 2005
    66cj5

    66cj5 Jeep with no name

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    "did you buy a kit to make your postal jeep 4wd or did you chop a CJ-7 frame?"
     
  12. Sep 8, 2005
    Boyink

    Boyink Super Moderator Staff Member

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    From another forum where someone was debating between a CJ7 and Early CJ5...

    Disc Upgrade for D44/D27

     
  13. Sep 8, 2005
    BlueFlu

    BlueFlu past owner of some ecj5's

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    The under seat gas tanks are a bomb waiting to go off, you HAVE to swap it out for a rear tank.

    Its cheaper to build a TJ. :rofl:
     
  14. Sep 8, 2005
    gte636p

    gte636p Member

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    anyone got the "how'd ya shorten that hood up? i can't even see a seam on anything" lately? i've been asked three times lately and all the guys swore up and down i didn't know what i was talking about, especially with that v6 swapped in, which was "a really nice swap job" as well..."could you put me in touch with who did it??"

    to some guy around here i'm stupid and don't know what i have. if only he knew what he thinks he does...
     
  15. Sep 8, 2005
    Boyink

    Boyink Super Moderator Staff Member

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    No, but I've gotten "Oh...you stretched a 5 into a Scrambler"...:D
     
  16. Sep 9, 2005
    jpflat2a

    jpflat2a what's that noise?

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    this is often heard about CJs with the AMC 304 V8

    "that engine is a Ford engine, Motorcraft carb and distibutor"
     
  17. Sep 10, 2005
    BlueFlu

    BlueFlu past owner of some ecj5's

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    I love the "you have to have front and rear lockers"

    I heard a fella one night telling a crowd around his Jeep that the V8 chevy in his was a factory option.
    I muttered to my buddies as we walked off "yea in a camreo" R)
     
  18. Sep 10, 2005
    mb82

    mb82 I feel great!

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    You must remove all emissions equipment in order to get any power ( not really a JEEP one as much as an all vehical one)
     
  19. Sep 10, 2005
    Mcruff

    Mcruff Earlycj5 Machinist

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    I know you've all the heard the snot nose kid at the parts counter say, you mean a staight 6, no I mean a V6, the final reply is then thats not factory you'll have to find out what it came from for me to get parts for it..
     
  20. Sep 10, 2005
    MOP

    MOP Active Member

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    I have 235/85/16's and a spring lift and it is very stable over 50. It just cruises right along. Granted I have not blown a tire at that speed, but I feel as comfortable at 60-65 in my CJ5 as I do any other car. Maybe time to check your steering, shocks, body mounts, etc. if you are having these problems.
     
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