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Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by jeep peep69, Feb 26, 2010.

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    jeep peep69

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    sparky

    sparky Sandgroper Staff Member Founder

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    I seem to recall threads in the past that discuss timing chains at length for the V6.

    Stock type vs. Edlebrock, etc. I'd check for some of those if I were you.
     
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    Ive used cloyes before, no complants
     
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    timgr

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    Cloyes is a good brand - I don't think you need anything fancy, as long as you get rid of the top nylon gear.
     
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    timgr

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    RockAuto sells Sealed Power

    SEALED POWER Part # KT3359S {3 Pc.} V6 engine; Timing Set - 3 Pc.; Incl. (1) 222-359, (1) 223-323, (1) 223-334 $26.79

    and Cloyes in the individual pieces, at a cheaper price than Summit.

    Shipping is probably cheaper from them. They also have the dampers, if you need to replace those.
     
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    thanks for the info im going to order it today just dont like waiting till march 15 for it to be shipped from summit
     
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    I've used the Edelbrock True Roller twice now. Only put 5 or 8 thousand miles on one, so I can't say about longevity. I really like eliminating the tensioner and rubbing block, and this is a double roller. The stock replacements aren't roller type chains.
     
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    kaiser_willys

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    got over 100k on a cloyes in a SBC no worries and its the double roller as well
     
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    The Edelbrock is made by Cloyes.;)
     
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    Any quality brand set with all steel construction will last 100K miles plus in a mostly stock engine. My only problems have been with nylon teeth OEM sets.
     
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    Patrick

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    Not in a Dauntless. They usually start making noise at 40-50K, for a stock steel non roller unit.
     
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    Is it because of the odd-fire vibrations? So far my experience has been with even fire and I never gave it a thought.
     
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    I think it's partly due to the odd fire. I also think it's because of the spring loaded tensioner. One I pulled last spring was a Sealed Power (I think) that I had replaced. It had ~50K on it, and the lower gear especially was worn pretty badly. It had started making noise at idle.
     
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    The literature I've read indicates it's due to the loading/unloading of the chain due to the odd-fire nature.
     
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    I've read that, too. I just don't like the tensioner. There isn't a whole lot of "tension" to it. Add the increased load from the odd fire, and it's bound to slap around in there.
     
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    jeep peep69

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    to bad they dont make a gear drive nothing like the noise of one on a built sbc
     
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    I had a tensioner spring break back in the 90's.. I didn't pick it up for a long time. I kept hearing an odd noise in the engine but I could never find it until I drained my oil and saw all these little shiny pieces of glitter in my oil... Uh oh... yep.. the chain and gears had eaten themsleves.... I'm not a big fan of the tensioner either btu I guess it's a necessary evil...


    BUBBA
     
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    But it isn't necessary. I don't run one any more..
     
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    Project71-5

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    This is good info to know. I'm gonna do my timing chain/water pump/oil pump this spring. I've read the other threads and its about 50/50 on using a stock type vs. a roller type that eliminates the tensioners. Gonna do more research....
     
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    dnb71R2

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    I've just reviewed most/all the threads at this site on timing chains. There are a few who chose to stay with a tensioner arrangement, but the new all-steel sets (roller or otherwise) look promising. That's what I'll do when the time comes. :)
    Just to add another dimension to the picture... Here's a guy who might install a tensioner when there was none provided by the OEM: http://www.v8buick.com/showthread.php?t=181946 :rofl:
     
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